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PostSubject: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2013 8:26 pm

So, Ive finally decided on buying a NEW motor, instead of buying one that I don't know the hours of, maintained or not and that kinda stuff.
I have three options.
-A 17.5 Briggs Recoil AND electric start.
-21 HP Briggs electric start
- Heavily modified horizontal engine

The reason for the modified horizontal is for my racer, that has a 6.5 Powerhorse from Northern Tool. I like the engine, but its not that powerful. aand since this thing is going to be ran in public, Id like the whole bragging right kinda thing I guess.

The other two are the ones that are going to cause the rants.
The 17.5 is a recoil, which in the past Ive had a lot of problems relying on a electric starter. (stupid twins) While the other is a 21 HP, its stronger. But the 17.5 allows me to leave off any kind of electrical stuff. Battery, solenoid, those kinds of things. While I ould simply do the pull start upgrade on the 21HP, Id rather not do it, I fear id mess that up HORRIBLY. ANd I could, in perspective, drive the 17.5 into DEEP water and I wouldn't have to worry about shorting something out. But the 21HP is strong. that is its only fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2013 9:20 pm

It's really up to you, but aware that electrics or not- you can still bugger the 17.5 up but good, in deep water. Regardless of electric start, you still have a magneto ignition system, and several ways for water to get into your engine...

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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2013 9:37 pm

i wold go with the 21 personally, not only because its bigger, but because you could easily put a pull start on it and have it as a back up

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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2013 10:14 pm

How modified is modified?

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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2013 7:56 am

@richie thomas wrote:
i wold go with the 21 personally, not only because its bigger, but because you could easily put a pull start on it and have it as a back up
I would go with the 21 and like Richie said you can put a pull start on for backup.
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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2013 4:20 pm

Doug Fackler wrote:
How modified is modified?
One of the Honda G200s, whatever $600 can get.
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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2013 5:18 pm

Is that a G200, or a Gx200? The G series is L-head, the GX is OHV. The Honda GX series is IMO the best damn OPE engines out there. Very well engineered and built, dead nuts reliable, and awesome aftermarket support. I had a GX340 big block on my go kart that would start in the dead of winter, one pull from an empty carb. I gave that engine hell, and it never let me down. All I gave it was scheduled maintenance. I do have a chinese GX200 clone, we will see how it does in the long term...

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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2013 5:34 pm

Hondas are very nice engines indeed.

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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2013 6:28 pm

@Doc Sprocket wrote:
Is that a G200, or a Gx200? The G series is L-head, the GX is OHV. The Honda GX series is IMO the best damn OPE engines out there. Very well engineered and built, dead nuts reliable, and awesome aftermarket support. I had a GX340 big block on my go kart that would start in the dead of winter, one pull from an empty carb. I gave that engine hell, and it never let me down. All I gave it was scheduled maintenance. I do have a chinese GX200 clone, we will see how it does in the long term...
ive built a few honda clone engines before what i noticed about them is the pistons are crappy the one i had i bought a aftermarket flathead cam and it ran great then i sold it the best cams to use if your gonna mod them is a .265 cam 10x better then the stock cam
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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2013 8:02 pm

@Doc Sprocket wrote:
Is that a G200, or a Gx200? The G series is L-head, the GX is OHV. The Honda GX series is IMO the best damn OPE engines out there. Very well engineered and built, dead nuts reliable, and awesome aftermarket support. I had a GX340 big block on my go kart that would start in the dead of winter, one pull from an empty carb. I gave that engine hell, and it never let me down. All I gave it was scheduled maintenance. I do have a chinese GX200 clone, we will see how it does in the long term...
Gx200** Sorry, had to copy and paste for the letter, my key apparently is busted...Who knew? Yeah, the engine I urrently hae on it is reliable ass hell, but...its a clone...
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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2013 8:15 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
@Doc Sprocket wrote:
Is that a G200, or a Gx200? The G series is L-head, the GX is OHV. The Honda GX series is IMO the best damn OPE engines out there. Very well engineered and built, dead nuts reliable, and awesome aftermarket support. I had a GX340 big block on my go kart that would start in the dead of winter, one pull from an empty carb. I gave that engine hell, and it never let me down. All I gave it was scheduled maintenance. I do have a chinese GX200 clone, we will see how it does in the long term...
Gx200** Sorry, had to copy and paste for the letter, my key apparently is busted...Who knew? Yeah, the engine I urrently hae on it is reliable ass hell, but...its a clone...
well you can always buy a aftermarket block thats bored .30 over and build the engine up slowly and run i on your mower
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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2013 8:17 pm

Jay_Rod wrote:
@Murray modder wrote:
@Doc Sprocket wrote:
Is that a G200, or a Gx200? The G series is L-head, the GX is OHV. The Honda GX series is IMO the best damn OPE engines out there. Very well engineered and built, dead nuts reliable, and awesome aftermarket support. I had a GX340 big block on my go kart that would start in the dead of winter, one pull from an empty carb. I gave that engine hell, and it never let me down. All I gave it was scheduled maintenance. I do have a chinese GX200 clone, we will see how it does in the long term...
Gx200** Sorry, had to copy and paste for the letter, my key apparently is busted...Who knew? Yeah, the engine I urrently hae on it is reliable ass hell, but...its a clone...
well you can always buy a aftermarket block thats bored .30 over and build the engine up slowly and run i on your mower
Then I run into a parts problem with stuff not matching up right
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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2013 8:24 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
Jay_Rod wrote:
@Murray modder wrote:
@Doc Sprocket wrote:
Is that a G200, or a Gx200? The G series is L-head, the GX is OHV. The Honda GX series is IMO the best damn OPE engines out there. Very well engineered and built, dead nuts reliable, and awesome aftermarket support. I had a GX340 big block on my go kart that would start in the dead of winter, one pull from an empty carb. I gave that engine hell, and it never let me down. All I gave it was scheduled maintenance. I do have a chinese GX200 clone, we will see how it does in the long term...
Gx200** Sorry, had to copy and paste for the letter, my key apparently is busted...Who knew? Yeah, the engine I urrently hae on it is reliable ass hell, but...its a clone...
well you can always buy a aftermarket block thats bored .30 over and build the engine up slowly and run i on your mower
Then I run into a parts problem with stuff not matching up right
true i didnt think of that lol
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PostSubject: Re: Which engine?   Which engine? Icon_minitimeTue Sep 03, 2013 6:36 pm

i'd roll with the 21 horse. a pull starter could be done easy, could probably even buy one from briggs if you wanted to. even with the pull on the 17.5 i would still want the electric start (im fat and lazy).. say you stall it in deep mud/ water. who wants to get off and pull a cord in that. id rather push a button or turn a key
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