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 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs

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PostSubject: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:22 pm

A old Murray Garden Tractor that came with a 18hp opposed twin, but I took it off to rebuild and ended up putting a 20hp V-Twin on it. Originally, stock, it came with a peerless 820-018, a very rare transaxle that I believe only came on those mowers. Making it 4X4 after realizing it didn't go as good in the mud as I thought it would.
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:10 pm

Pics!
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:33 pm

I'm getting to it, hey should be up by tomorrow afternoon.
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:49 pm

And take a pic of the diagram you drew for me, when are you gettin the gear box's?
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:50 pm

Go on CB(Chatbox) and from eBay.
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:58 am

You have quite the title, maybe shorten it a little?
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:56 pm

What do you mean by no differentials? Like both transmission will be locked? Or you gonna be running like chains and a straight axel?
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:56 pm

Their will be no differentials in either axles, so it is all time 4 wheel drive and not that one tires spins but the other doesn't crap.
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:16 pm

nice project u got going murray
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:18 pm

If you are using two peerless axles how are you going to steer
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:21 pm

I had a yamaha kodiak with locking axles.. lemme tell you.. your never gonna be able to steer with front and rear locked.. pavement is going to hate you.. with 4x4.. id run atleast a front diff


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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:23 pm

He's using 't' gear boxes for axles and drive shafts off of the mst
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:41 pm

Changed my mind, I want to be able to steer so I'm taking out the axles of the peerless 820 and using them in the front because they have a differential that is a single piece and wont fall apart or break.
Also here's the pics:
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:44 pm

MM stop it, you're becoming me, changing your mind all the time.
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:03 pm

Nah, I need a differential, that's why I changed my mind, you change your mind so you don't get bored.
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:05 pm

Yeah lol
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:13 pm

What are 't' gear boxes?
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:36 pm

They are gearboxes shaped like a T . Heres a picture of what they look like.
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:20 pm

What are those out if them are some huge gear boxes I want em lol
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:17 pm

run a pulley to the input then driveshafts off the outputs to dana 44 and 60 Very Happy shorten them of course Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:34 pm

TroyBilt Pony wrote:
run a pulley to the input then driveshafts off the outputs to dana 44 and 60 :Dshorten them of course Twisted Evil
A 44 and a 60? a V8 making like 10 times more hp than the twin doesn't break them lol. just get a d20
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:19 am

What are you going to be using for universal joints? You Could use some pretty cheap ones i bet With the smaller engine.
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:49 am

redlinemotorsportts wrote:
TroyBilt Pony wrote:
run a pulley to the input then driveshafts off the outputs to dana 44 and 60 :Dshorten them of course Twisted Evil
A 44 and a 60? a V8 making like 10 times more hp than the twin doesn't break them lol. just get a d20  
I have to agree with Red here, the Dana 23 found in old jeeps and even in many harley golf carts would be much more friendly for what you intend to do, and the golf cart ones are even pre-shortened. The 60 and 44 would be too much drag on the engine anyway, and unless you set your ratios really low from the engine out, it likely wont move. Just trying to be of help here...
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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:59 pm

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PostSubject: Re: 4X4 Offroad Mower-20hp Kohler,6spd, No Diffs   Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:08 pm

I might use a golf-cart axle front and rear, but the gearboxes would fit my tractor better, and I need two specific ones.
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