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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:17 am

Time is freeing up for me now so its time to get back at this.  

Nothing has been touched on this since my last post (over a year ago), so i need to pickup where i left off.  
#1: I need to dig it out of the corner of the garage and blow the dust off.
#2: Got some work to do to the rims then sand blast them.
#3: Need to make some front hubs for the 110mm bolt pattern.
#4: Reinforce front axle beam then rebuild it.
#5: Sand blast the front axle beam and mount.
#6: Assemble front with tires on to see if tires clear all objects at full turns.
#7: Make rear wheel spacers to equal up footprint with front.
#8: Finish up front winch mount.
#9: Make rear winch mount.
#10: Get a motor for it.

This list is just a start there is more to do after all this gets done.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:03 pm

Got a few things done to this over the last couple of years but not a hole lot.  I'm going to be finding my pics and posting them soon.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:53 am

Every so often I think of what happened to this it the allis, nice to see you ain't dead. Looking forward to some pics

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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:25 pm

Still have em both but haven't done much to them, that's the problem with my little projects they get pushed to the side when life gets busy.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:40 pm

Well i did a little work to this over the weekend, wasnt much but it was something. Been over 4 years since i worked on it.

Long story short i needed to move it from my old house to the new one, so i finished up mounting the front axle mounting plate to my frame i made (if that made any sense).  
I had to cut a little bit of my frame out to make it sit flat and drill the six holes for bolting it down. When i was loading everything up i saw my todo list it said about making some inch spacers for under the axle plate.  I did some measuring and i do have to put a inch spacer under it to level the frame out so all the notching i did was not needed.

On a side note photobucket delinked my pics but i will be trying to edit them back in.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:36 pm

HOLY THREAD REVIVAL BATMAN!

Awesome! Photobucket sux now. That frame is CLEAN!

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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:05 pm

Wait till i revive my allis build , i started collecting parts in 06 for it. Man its 12 years in the makings and havent touched it in atleast 5 years.  

I want to have this craftsman up and going this summer so i can use it around the yard. Plus i need to empty out my other garage and try and sell the house this year, this August will make two years that ive been out of there.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:31 pm

Man that sounds sweet!  Can't wait to see that come alive!

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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:44 am

Could you be trying to get a ride ready for Haspin? I've been thinking about shortening the trip.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:57 pm

Another Long story short- I finally got my old house on the market (for sale),  now I finally have my time.
 I've been spending every evening working over there since the end of June and I haven't got to touched this build since I hauled it home on my last post.
In the last post I notched the frame to fit the front axle mounting plate.
The next day I went over and bolted the rear and front end in, put wheels and tires on, put steering shalf in, and bolted the rear fenders on. Basically had to make it a steerable roller to haul it home.
When i got home i rolled it up onto my lifting table and that's where it's been since.  
So here is how it sits today, same as six months ago






So I need some input. How / what should I run for a motor. I got a 20hp v twin vertical shalf- it's used and its smokes bad  or I got an opposed 18hp horizontal that sit rotated 90* in it (crank is pointing back at you) and that motor needs work as well. Or my final option buy a 670cc and run the crank straight out the side like it really should be?


Let me know what you think is the best way to go.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:21 pm

Wow, this build looks great! What trans does this have? Personally I'd go with the 20hp V twin, and if the trans has a horizontal input you can run a twisted belt or RAGB.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:48 pm

@MatthewD wrote:
Wow, this build looks great! What trans does this have? Personally I'd go with the 20hp V twin, and if the trans has a horizontal input you can run a twisted belt or RAGB.

Thanks.

Trans is the stock 3speed high/low.

The 20 hp is a vertical shalf, it sitting on a craftsman just like this but with a green body. It uses a different style of belt twist then the opposed  motor one I got.
But thats the thing i got both styles of belt twist setup to make either motor work  but both motors need rebuilt.  If I'm willing to spend $ on getting motors rebuilt why not buy a 670cc  and have a new motor. Only thing with that is if I run the 670 I'd turn it 90*and just straight shot the pulleys with each other to delete the belt twist. All that would take is a little fab work and thats not a big deal, just cost a little more in the long run then rebuilding a motor.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:09 pm

I’d like to see how the 670 does. I’m not a fan of belt twists myself
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:12 pm

IDK about the 670.  It's a ton of power and the engines aren't the greatest and parts are harder to get for it.

How about a 10hp Tillotson?  It's a 212cc clone rated for 10 hp and it's on sale for $180 right now.

https://www.gopowersports.com/212cc-tillotson-hemi-engine/
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:17 pm

If he went with a 212, just get a predator for 125 bucks. Parts are EVERYWHERE
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:41 pm

I'd rebuild the V twin with new rings. Run a belt twist to a jackshaft and pull the motor forward to tighten the belt with no idlers and put the clutch on the jackshaft to trans input belt.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:49 pm


A 212 is out of the picture unless I'm stuffing 3 of them under the hood

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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:01 pm

I see. You’re going for a big power garden tractor.
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:58 am

Here is a teaser for y'all

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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:25 pm

affraid I'm stoked this is huge.  I hope the rest of your powertrain can handle all of that powa!
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:27 pm

Does that motor actually have an oil cooler on it, or just the pic?
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PostSubject: Re: The Craftsman build   Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:46 am

Crazy carl - I hope so.

Prancstaman - yes it does, however the 708cc vertical shalf model they sell does not have an oil cooler on it.
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