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PostSubject: peerless 700 race prep   Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:51 pm

does anyone know the proper way to race prep a 700 or if theres already a topic on it can someone tell me what it is cuz I cant seem to find it
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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:28 am

@jsisti845 wrote:
does anyone know the proper way to race prep a 700 or if theres already a topic on it can someone tell me what it is cuz I cant seem to find it

Maybe try google PEERLESS 700, and not PEAR  Very Happy 

There is not a good writeup on the peerless 700 on here, but here's some links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4-TW-Mado YT Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GVS2ZIDl8k - YT Link

http://racingmower.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=74.0 - Link to a Gear kit

http://www.heymow.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=99kmdob1oafsjl4eimifsaq3k3&topic=5644.0 STEP by STEP

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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:27 am

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There is not a good writeup on the peerless 700 on here

I SWEAR I'll get to it one'a these days... Gonna be like a 3-part miniseries, though...

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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:56 am

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@Thunderdivine wrote:


There is not a good writeup on the peerless 700 on here

I SWEAR I'll get to it one'a these days... Gonna be like a 3-part miniseries, though...

Yea to me stuff like that would be much more useful than The Product review Section.

also here's a nice Fastening plate for the 700. If anyone has the excact measurements please post em.


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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:04 am

That's quite nice- maybe too nice. Do you know the material type/thickness? With all the holes in it, I'd be a bit concerned about the structural integrity, unless it's beefier than it looks. Let me look around, I thought I had seem common dimensions somewhere.

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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:34 am

@Doc Sprocket wrote:
That's quite nice- maybe too nice. Do you know the material type/thickness? With all the holes in it, I'd be a bit concerned about the structural integrity, unless it's beefier than it looks. Let me look around, I thought I had seem common dimensions somewhere.

It's steel and 1/4" thick so its moore than enough. It's 40 bucks to buy but I don't have the link here(at work).

Think I will cut mine in 1/4" or beefier 6082 Aluminium. Strong and light.

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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:24 pm

great thanks for the info guys!!
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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:29 pm


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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:30 pm

Ooh... Slick, but spendy. I see why you want the dimensions!

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PostSubject: PEERLESS 700 Race Prep   Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:19 am

Someone with admin rights, please re-name the title to PEER and not PEAR, since this won't show up in search...

And also, does anyone know what threads is used on the PEERLESS 700 mount? Is it those self threading bolts or is it Standard UNC?

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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:27 am

Done. Threads are standard 5/16NC18.

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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:36 am

@Doc Sprocket wrote:
Done. Threads are standard 5/16NC18.

thanks, nc18 scratch 

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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:11 pm

National standard course thread 18 threads per inch.... nc18
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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:28 pm

@Lawren Wimberly wrote:
National standard course thread 18 threads per inch.... nc18

The missing U confused me. My bolts I had fit ok, just dirty threads.

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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:01 pm

The difference in stock Peerless 700 reverse chain and the 420 chain.




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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:27 am

Hows this for thought!

Well not really I read it over at Heymow, that they never run theyre 700's at 1:1 but much more overdrive like 3:1 so the torque don't goes to the box.
And this shatteres my plan on running almost 1:1 or even less. Since the clutch is like a 4" and I planned on a bigger 5" on the 700.
But I see they reccommend atleast a 6" on the motor to a 3-4 on the 700. If not you'll blow the gearboxes.

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PostSubject: peerless 700 race prep   Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:30 am

wouldn't that wear the tranny out?
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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:35 am

@1997 Murray wrote:
wouldn't that wear the tranny out?

Yeah that's what I thought, but im not good with sprockets, and where the actual torque will go. I'm thinking they might have a point also, and im guessing nobody ran a 700 harder than those guys, so...

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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:49 pm

I'm thinking ya have it backwards... a smaller pulley on the 700 and a larger on the motor will put MORE torque on the gearbox... If they are running it that way, it obviously can handle it... but any pulley/sprocket smaller than stock on a tranny overdrives it. Specifically, it makes more torque stress on the input shaft and gears. it DOES make for less torque on the output shafts, but you have just moved the torque stress from the output to the input.
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PostSubject: Re: peerless 700 race prep   Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:37 pm

@Lawren Wimberly wrote:
I'm thinking ya have it backwards... a smaller pulley on the 700 and a larger on the motor will put MORE torque on the gearbox... If they are running it that way, it obviously can handle it... but any pulley/sprocket smaller than stock on a tranny overdrives it. Specifically, it makes more torque stress on the input shaft and gears. it DOES make for less torque on the output shafts, but you have just moved the torque stress from the output to the input.

Nope, they overdrive the trans, for some reason.

Here:
http://www.heymow.com/index.php?topic=26352.0

And here:
http://www.heymow.com/index.php?topic=26716.0

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