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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 5th 2015, 8:17 pm

Yeah something like that might work.
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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 6th 2015, 9:55 pm

Got the choke installed, switches labeled up with a marker, Tachometer installed!
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Tach is from a 1979 or so kawasaki snowmobile. Kind of neat that it doesn't have kawasaki printed on it, just plain. Two wires for the tach itself. Ground one and connect the other to the coil shut off wire, seems to work pretty good. Marked the 4000rpm redline on there for good measure.
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Light even works. I'll hook it up so it comes on with the main headlights. I was thinking I should have a dash light too, so it shines on the switches.
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Finished up the scatter shield today.
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Not only does it slow down jagged shards of flywheel from turning your clutch foot into hamburger meat, it also keeps your shoe from grinding on the flywheel screen.
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Some of the tight bends were already in the rod I was using. Kind of went around the starter gear like that for looks more or less. In the event of an actual flywheel failure, I don't know how much it would help, but I'll bet it would be better than nothing. Should absorb a lot of energy even if it bends back a little. The other thing is that it holds the choke cable where it belongs so I don't need to make another bracket for it.
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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 6th 2015, 11:06 pm

My rigs gonna look like fresh crap next to yours in PA lol. Gotta step up my game.


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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 7th 2015, 9:37 am

Not like everything is in perfect shape on this either. I never painted up the tie rods or the engine. The stock tie rod ends seem to be pretty snug, so I think I'll just leave them for now. I've got spares from my parts sears. Figured I could just keep extra rods on hand with the ends already on them.
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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 7th 2015, 3:18 pm

I really like the tach , didn't think they would be that simple to hookup. You do good work.
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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 7th 2015, 4:45 pm

As mentioned, I think ATV Fenders would look really good on this! It would fit the theme quite well.
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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 7th 2015, 8:46 pm

Cage looks real slick. But will it conquer the creek that ate both of dougs rigs?? We will have to see...
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It might be even deeper in May. WHOOO KNOOOOOOOOOOOOWSSSSSS????


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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 7th 2015, 9:47 pm

Doug Fackler wrote:
It might be even deeper in May. WHOOO KNOOOOOOOOOOOOWSSSSSS????

As doug remembers, not only does he have two weddings and a dentist apointment scheduled for that weekend, but also his tractor is in pieces in his garage... No problem mr. fackler, you don't have to miss your weddings and junk.

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Cage looks real slick. But will it conquer the creek that ate both of dougs rigs?? We will have to see...

Thanks, and it'll handle any stream you've got...maybe. Got quite a bit done the past couple days because I have some time off. I got the clutch mostly rigged up today. Just need to add the springs.

Still need to:
-Lock rear
-Round off back corners of hood for safety...
-Finish wiring
-Rear fenders if I get to it.
-Snug up all the bolts I never tightened.
-Remove governor guts that I just left inside the engine...I know people seem to think they fly apart, I don't see why they would. I guess maybe the weights get slapping back and forth under certain conditions without a load on them. I was thinking for now, maybe find a governor arm off another engine and hook it with a spring. Then I can leave the engine alone.

Everything else mostly good I think. I should probably change the oil, STILL the same oil that was in it when I got it out of a guys back yard. Maybe a couple more stickers on the hood. That oughta cover it I think.
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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 7th 2015, 11:49 pm

Well if we go into the gamelands theres another stream crossing. They dug it out to deter ATVs. I bet we can figure a way around that lol.


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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 8th 2015, 10:09 pm

Thats basically how our weekend will go, guaranteed.


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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 9th 2015, 10:10 pm

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I really like the tach , didn't think they would be that simple to hookup. You do good work.

Thanks. I tried hooking that tach up a year or so ago to a chinese minibike engine and it jumped around a lot. Seems to work good on this engine. I don't know if the coil on the chinese engine has a weird electrical pulse or something that messes it up, or maybe I just had it hooked up backwards? This time when I tried it, it was nice and smooth and stayed right where you would expect it to be, so I guess it's ok. Kind of good to know, because junk snowmobiles with electical tachs should be pretty easy to come across, at least up north.

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Thats basically how our weekend will go, guaranteed.

I hope not exactly like that, but anyway...I was thinking I could quiet the sears down even more if needed pretty easy by making an oval plate from aluminum or something with a 1" hole in the middle and then rivet onto the screen that I welded across the end. I think that would really cut it down. High speed chase, doug fackler vs. fish and game...
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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 10th 2015, 6:09 pm

Essentially. Maybe I should hold off on sticking ATLTF and my Youtube stickers on lol.


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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 10th 2015, 7:08 pm

Where y'all gonna be riding at?
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My families place upstate, where I shot my last two train riding videos.


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Thats if the rally doesnt die... MTD playing tow truck.
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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 10th 2015, 10:53 pm

Nothing is going to pull a broken down 700lb baja sears up a rocky hill. That 820 transmission case might as well be made out of wet tissue paper. Besides, I'll just have my chase helicopter drop off some spare parts if I need anything.
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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 13th 2015, 8:57 pm

I might have accidently fibbed about the tach working good. I had the sears running again and rigged up the tach temporary like again. This time it kind of jumped around a lot. Before it was nice and smooth right where it was supposed to be. I don't know if I just had a bad connection or if the tach pics up some kind of electronic "noise" from somewhere. I'm just going to hook the wires up good and then I'll see how it goes. Maybe some kind of ballast or resistor in the line would help.
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PostSubject: Re: BAJA SEARS BUILD   BAJA SEARS BUILD - Page 11 Icon_minitimeMarch 14th 2015, 9:04 pm

Removed transaxle.
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All the spots I didn't paint up too good during the build off.
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Wheel hub is froze on the bottom axle, I assume. I never tried getting that side off. So, I couldn't take the entire axle out to lock it. Needed to bend a wrench to fit the bolts under the differential.
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All I did was flip the spider gears around so that two were locked on one axle and two on the other. Normally of course, those two gears are opposite, one up, one down. Here you can see they are both at the bottom.
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Side view showing the gears on the ends of each axle and the spider gears.
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Cleaned it up a little and gave it a quick paint job. Should be about ready to go back in.
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Super fancy dancy pantsy rantsy.


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Painted up the drive pulley and put that back on. Put some set screws in the hub on the brake rotor side, because I guess I never put them in. Then I put the trans back in the tractor. So at least that part is done.
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Took the engine off to remove the governor parts, since I had the mounting bolts out already. You can't get the belt off of this thing without taking the engine loose. Kind of a bad design on my part if you want to change a belt. I could probably run a longer belt through a couple of idlers and get around that.
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Got tired of trying to block these engines up on something to drain the oil without getting it all over.
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So...after messing around trying to get the side cover off with some rust on the crank, I find out this thing has a couple of ballance shafts. They don't have any kind of timing marks on them. What I think they probably want you to do, is line up the timing marks on the camshaft and crank. Then just put the side cover back on. The weights spin to the bottom easily because they run on roller bearings. If you did it this way, the counter weight on the crank would be about at the 8:00 position looking into the block. Or maybe they want you to put it at top or bottom dead center. No idea. There's no way to see where they end up, so it must rely on just putting the crank in the right spot and sliding the cover on. I've never seen any small engines with ballance shafts like this. For the time being I left them out and I'm going to see how bad it is without them. I know the vertical shaft engines with the eccentric driven weights are supposed to vibrate badly with them removed. But I figured they pull directly on the crankshaft. With these, the pressure or force is applied to the block. So even if the vibration is a lot worse, I don't see how any engine parts would have more stress than before. Except maybe the mounting bolts and block. If it's really bad I can just put them back in.
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Hey, Just a quick heads up, we locked 3 of the sears in our group just like you did and two blew the diff gears out and cracked the bottom of the case. the strange part is the one thats never broken has the biggest motor and tires of all, and gets used the most. We flip and weld now, no more breakages. We all run much more aggressive tires than you, so you might never have a issue.
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mr.modified wrote:
Nothing is going to pull a broken down 700lb baja sears up a rocky hill. That 820 transmission case might as well be made out of wet tissue paper. Besides, I'll just have my chase helicopter drop off some spare parts if I need anything.

i think my 600 pound bolens might give it a good run for its money.. but its blown up ATM. dont think the GT would do much
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willis923 wrote:

i think my 600 pound bolens might give it a good run for its money.. but its blown up ATM. dont think the GT would do much

I should actually weigh this thing. Feels pretty hefty.

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Hey, Just a quick heads up, we locked 3 of the sears in our group just like you did and two blew the diff gears out and cracked the bottom of the case. the strange part is the one thats never broken has the biggest motor and tires of all, and gets used the most. We flip and weld now, no more breakages. We all run much more aggressive tires than you, so you might never have a issue.

Interesting, did you guys take them apart and see what failed? I figured it puts the stress on the plates that hold the gears and the bolts. I have two other transmissions available if this one breaks. I thought I would give it a try and see how it goes. Maybe I'll start working on another one and weld that one up. Thanks for the info.
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