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PostSubject: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 8:46 am

Are the e3 spark plugs a good replacement for the champion spark plugs on my vtwin?
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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 9:16 am

Only one way to find out is to try it
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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 5:25 pm

nah man, sure theyre OK plugs, but honestly (coming from a small engine mechanic) they are complete snake oil. they dont help anything. if it was me i'd stick some NGK's or champions in it. never had any trouble with either of those

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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 5:28 pm

@willis923 wrote:
nah man, sure theyre OK plugs, but honestly (coming from a small engine mechanic) they are complete snake oil. they dont help anything. if it was me i'd stick some NGK's or champions in it. never had any trouble with either of those

I'll second that. Even if they are "better" than a normal plug, any advantage is kinda wasted on a low-performance, archaic engine. Gapped properly and in good condition, a good "normal" plug provides more than enough spark.

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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 5:33 pm

i run e3 in my v twin vanguard and they work great for me, only reason i bought them though is because i worked at a parts store and got them discounted
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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 5:40 pm

plus, with the E3 at a price of about 6 bucks here in NY, and the champion RC12YC (oem for most lawn and garden) at a whoping $2.02, im going with the champ

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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 6:23 pm

Thanks guys I just didn't know if they made a hotter fuller spark for better performance or not. Especially when I romp on the throttle I get a second of hesitation before it revs up lol
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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 6:34 pm

i think a little hesitation is about normal on these things.. lol. just make sure the carb is about right. one of my friends works at a john deere dealer and he refuses to use E3. he is the one that i quoted earlier. once he had a customer bring him the e3 with the machine to be serviced, and he wouldnt use it.

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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 8:07 pm

Lol yea I'd like to find a 2 bbl carb for it but I'm not sure where to find one at. I figured that it would help with the hesitation problem as well and give me more power.
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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 8:23 pm

It's not a 1-barrel or 2-barrel thing. It's the carb DESIGN. There are two circuits. Idle and high-speed. A GOOD carb like a Mikuni features FIVE individual, tuneable circuits. You want real throttle response? Upgrade from the caveman-carb.

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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 8:26 pm

I have a mikuni carb I know that I just don't know how to properly tune it
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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 8:31 pm

There's about a zillion Mikuni tuning guides on the 'net. Googling it will be very productive.

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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeFri Jan 10, 2014 8:32 pm

Ok thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeTue Jan 14, 2014 4:20 am

I once bought an e3 plug mainly for the warranty. I did notice a little bit of a performance increase but a few days later I went to start my tractor after parking it and it didn't want to start, it didn't even fart. Nothing was touched bumped or moved. I checked the plug and it had 0 spark. It wasn't even arcing between the electrode and the inside of the threads (through the ceramic) this happened with the next plug as well! I just like to stick to a CJ8 or RCJ8. The hotter the better In my eyes.

I know about how it can melt things because of the low melting point of aluminum and its just not meant to take the heat but I've taken apart engines I've ran hard for pure exploratory exploration, not because it broke and found nothing damaged. if anything because Its getting a more fuller burn there was almost no carbon buildup anywhere and I think we all know how quick carbon builds up in these engines that have been running a little too rich!

Also I prefer a 0.35 gap instead of the OE 0.30. I have repeatedly seen a noticeable increase in over all performance with a more responsive engine and its hard to stall it. I can achieve an extremely low idle with out missing a beat proving that the spark always ignites the fuel even with these fossil carbs. Its my little secret tweak ill share lol  Wink




While in the early stages I was already able to get good performance with almost no tuning and a COLD engine! I will get more slow idle videos of my other tractors eventually.







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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeTue Jan 14, 2014 5:18 am

[quote="the54"
Also I prefer a 0.30 gap instead of the OE 0.25.[/quote]

What engine(s) are we talking about? Because plug gap spec IS 0.030" on pretty much every single OPE engine!

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PostSubject: Re: E3 spark plugs for vanguard   E3 spark plugs for vanguard Icon_minitimeTue Jan 14, 2014 5:37 am

@the54 wrote:

Also I prefer a 0.30 gap instead of the OE 0.25.

@Doc Sprocket wrote:
What engine(s) are we talking about? Because plug gap spec IS 0.030" on pretty much every single OPE engine!


My bad I meant to say 0.35 not 0.30 ill correct it
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