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PostSubject: Re: MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc.   MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc. - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 10, 2014 9:49 pm

@mr.modified wrote:
Oh good, I didn't miss half the build yet. I should start paying attention more... That thing is pretty neat for a factory built deal. There's a company called panzer that made lawn tractors with a car differential and inline trans too. Bout all I know about them though, maybe they weren't up in canada much, who knows.

Beats me, I don't know much about them either. But- cool!
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PostSubject: Re: MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc.   MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc. - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 10, 2014 10:52 pm

About the different gear ratios...

My brother has a 70s Dodge pickup with 4x4, but the gear ratios are different, I think its the front geared higher... dont know if its really advantageous or not...

Youve had some offroading shenanigains in the past Doc, what do you think?
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PostSubject: Re: MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc.   MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc. - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Dec 11, 2014 12:41 am

I think the main reason for different ratios is that because front wheel spins more car turns better. Front wheel sort of pulls the front when turned.
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PostSubject: Re: MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc.   MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc. - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Dec 11, 2014 7:42 am

The basics of it are this:

A SLIGHT overdrive in the frontend (and I do mean SLIGHT) has shown benefit in the past in mud and hillclimb situations. This does result in the frontend pulling, but is rather condition-specific.

On the other hand, if you have the least bit of traction, mismatched ratios WILL result in driveline bind and broken sh*t.

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PostSubject: Re: MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc.   MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc. - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 24, 2015 9:29 pm

Well- I've done more THINKING about this build, than building lately. No shock- this one is going to be a HUGE challenge.

However- in an effort to actually DO something, I decided to address the turbo today.



So... Got 'er mounted up on the exhaust side, and after that, I had a look at some plumbing junk I had kicking around and managed to do the intake side in all of about 10 minutes! Sweet! So- here's how she sits now:
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I apologize for the blurry pic. Ill re-shoot it, and scab it in later.

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PostSubject: Re: MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc.   MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc. - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 24, 2015 9:32 pm

You're gunna blow the welds on your intake, kid.

Or maybe that was for nitrous.

Oh well, look crazy like always. Gunna be happy to see what happens when the drivetrain gets set up.

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PostSubject: Re: MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc.   MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc. - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 24, 2015 10:06 pm

will the front suspension be hard enough to support that heavy of an engine? and what PSI are you going to run it @?
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PostSubject: Re: MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc.   MULE3... Brainstorming, ideas, etc. - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jan 25, 2015 9:04 am

@ZSmachines wrote:
will the front suspension be hard enough to support that heavy of an engine? and what PSI are you going to run it @?

Good question. All I can do is set it up, and see what happens. If it's not stiff enough, I can alter the angle of the coilovers, play with the preload, or even change them out for something stiffer.

PSI? As in boost? Dunno yet. It remains to be seen how much the T3 can develop with the Kubota's exhaust stream. I WILL be connecting a vac/boost gauge to monitor it, and see where it goes form there.

The engine that the turbo came off, had approximately 4x the displacement. I don't expect a lot, but any improvement is improvement. I doubt it will ever spool hard enough to trigger the waste gate.

The waste gate is actuated by a diaphragm, which basically measures the difference between boost and atmospheric pressure. I don't know what it's calibrated for, but is non-adjustable. If on the off-chance I think it's developing too much, I'll find a way to bleed off more pressure. Could be as simple as a port on the intake pipe. We'll see. This turbo stuff is new territory for me.

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Hey Doc, now that you've kind of restarted the Bannerman project, are you going to start a new thread on it or use this one? Or just not post about it?
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What ever happened to this project? For that matter where is mule and mule 2 ?
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We lost M1 during surgery. Doc tried his best but the project just died. M2 became an organ donor. The vanguard from M2 is in his sears, "suburban commando"
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Doc,

Did you ever do anything with the bannerman frame? I would love to hear a update on this project!

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