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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:21 am

It looks like the black 5 hp engine is shorter then the red 5 hp engine, when they was in the frame. Are they both the same height when put next to each other?

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:14 pm

@Lawren Wimberly wrote:
hey... I need one of those....

I have one...  



@prancstaman wrote:
It looks like the black 5 hp engine is shorter then the red 5 hp engine, when they was in the frame. Are they both the same height when put next to each other?


Oh Ohh Ohhhh... I see whats going on. I had to look closer, but there is a 1in spacer under the orange one. I dont think it was sitting flat on the mounting plate because of the tank.

Did they make tall and short block engines?

Anywho, heres my latest addition...







So I know its a crappy mower to begin with... but it looks like it needs to go faster...
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:49 pm

hrrggk.


So I made this belt guide for my st/10. There is supposed to be a guide thats bolts to the transaxle... I forgot to bolt it on, before I started putting this thing together. Itd be a pain to disassemble and bolt the proper unit on soooo....



This is going to be a grass cutter, but Im not sure quite how the deck mounts... this thing might interfere I dont know... lol
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:09 pm

Yah, Briggs made tall and short deck 5 hp motors. The short deck ones are on the push mowers and are vertical shaft engines, that I've built up. But never really seen a short deck 5 hp with a horizontal shaft yet.

The engine block with a short deck means the piston while going up and down in the cylinder, will be moving faster, in turn gives more torque. Because the piston rod is shorter.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:59 pm

So still not much going with the "craftman thing"... its in the grass... err... weeds...

..but I did get some front wheels and tires for it!



So in my pile of parts, bits and pieces... Ive come up with this conglomeration...





I think I like how this looks better than the craftsman...



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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:20 pm

Hey there's the Purnurple tractor! Haha. Is that pile of parts the new project or is that combining with the purple one?
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:24 pm

Brandy newy. Because I need all the projects I can get! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:48 pm

Oh ok, hahaha. Is it still gonna be an off-roader?
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:16 pm

Im not sure really... not like a mud boggin, rock crawlin, hill climbin type thing... but uhh.. its... uhh... i dont know. scratch

The craftsman will be more hotrod-esque... this new thing... kinda dirt racer hotrod-esuqe-ness? I mean... technically they would be "off road" units... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:20 pm

dirt track racer... I could get into that...
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:50 pm

See? Itd be great.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:38 am

Ya that'd be cool to see.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:30 am

That would be cool. Would you actually try to race it in a league? Or just fun in the backyard?

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:59 pm

Just a back yard type deal.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:16 am

Awesome!

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:09 pm

Maybe... lol

So first thing I did was booger weld this brace in better. Im not sure if its in the way or not... but it aint moving now!



Here is, more or less how the dash, and gas tank will sit.



Ill need to trim the dash to fit the gas tank more better.



And heres where I hit my first snag... In order to clear the frame, and to get the axle sprocket in the center of this contraption...  

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:57 pm

Looking interesting so far. Will there be some sort of side pipe exhaust?
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:08 am

Yes. If all goes well, it will go back under the floor board then out the side.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:22 pm

So I guess if I flip my frame around I wont have clearance issues... Ide still have to run a jackshaft to get the chain in the center... but thats too much work.

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:34 pm

This one should look pretty cool Beal! Is it gonna that low? What kinda speed are ya hoping for?
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:47 pm

yeah, its gona be pretty low I think. It will need a skid plate.

As for speed... Im not sure, either something reasonable... 20-25?, or Im gona do something silly and gear it high... 30-35... 45...

I think I like the idea of 25-ish.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:56 pm

Yeah, a skidplate or two would be a good idea. Are you gonna change the shape of the shifter? Looks like it would hit the steering wheel maybe.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:13 pm

Oh yeah, it would hit the dash as it is now. Ill either bend it so it doesnt hit, or possibly just make one.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:45 am

I have one of those gearboxes, it has a plate bolted to the side of it that holds the shifter 90* to the left so you can actually shift it easily. Has a stripped gear tho so I can't use it.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:17 am

Anyone know of anyone running a centrifugal clutch on their vertical shaft engines? I am concerned I might not have much room under this thing...

I know there will be a bit more wear and tear on the clutch, but thats ok.


Ill still try to build a clutch in there... I just dont want a bunch of stuff hanging down under it... its going to be low enough as it is now.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:17 pm

Ive considered trying a torque converter setup... you would be hard pressed finding a centrifugal clutch that will hold up to the HP and stresses in a lawnmower I think ( I think Thunder Divine put TC in his 90mph mini deere)
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