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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:23 pm

You're doing a peerless 700 to live axle correct? What if you were to mount your pillow blocks to the leaf springs from the snowmobile and have rear suspension? you would need a chain tensioner that is spring adjustable, but I think it could work.

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:59 am

Well, I kinda thought about using them on this, but they are too long.
I couldnt just mount the axle to them though, that would bend and stretch out the chain. Probably put some strain on the gearbox too.
With some sort of swing arm it might have worked though.

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:35 pm

Started tacking the frame together.

And to think Im a certified welder... look at this hole!



I think Im gona go ahead and weld these up.
They look good to me.

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:04 pm

I usually weld my frames up on a flat piece of plywood with the center marked out on it for measuring points. If anything needs spaced up or down I would use 2x4 pieces of wood. Works real good with an accuracy of about 1/16 of an inch out of wack.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:05 pm

A flat piece of driveway work good too, LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:13 pm

I just c-clamped the pieces to a piece of plate I had. Im finding out how rusty I am with the welder... and the rods I have might be questionable. I got it all welded, but had a few booger welds so I ground those bastards out to lay down a nicer looking bead.

Ill probably make some sort of jig when I start putting in the cross members... I dont know, as long as its "close" no one would really notice ha!
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:02 am

Nice. When I'm welding, I just use the concrete floor of our shed.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:25 am

BTW - how did you cut those angles?
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:06 am

Dewalt metal cutting chop saw
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:18 am

Ah right nice. We have one of those, but it has a blade for cutting wood on it
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:14 pm

This one is specifically for metal, I dont think a wood blade will fit it.
It is lacking in where you set the angle, it only has 3 marked on the plate... and Im not exactly sure where to line it up at anyways. lol!

So I broke out a protractor and lined it up on the slot for the cutting wheel at 22.5*.
Would like to someday make a more better way to set the angle on it, with a few more marks.

I noticed cutting at an angle, it pushes the wheel a bit at first. Didnt seem to create any issues though.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:58 pm

Yeah. Looking forward to seeing more progress bud!
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:45 pm

Yeah me too...

I mostly welded up the frame rails.
Having a hard time putting down a bead and not burning through.Didnt think Id have much trouble but apparently Im wrong. Thats ok, the welds will be getting ground down anyways no one will know. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:10 pm

Maybe try a little less heat?
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:31 pm

Tried turning it down, but then is a royal pain to get the arc started.
Im using 7018 rods, they could be old. maybe thats part of the problem I dont know.

Im still figuring out this new welder.


If Id had been smarter, I would have welded half way then stopped. Welded on another part then come back and finish the weld. I could get about 3/4 of the way welded and then you hear it start burning through.

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:07 pm

You got the right idea on welding halfway through, but if you're burning through you got too much heat. Should be around 80 to 90 amps for 1/16 inch steel for good welds with ease. Smaller welds would help, 1/8 inch tack welds, one after the other, starting on top of the end of the finished weld, right before the red glow goes away from the weld before, to restart the arc easier.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:16 pm

Yeah prancstaman that's what I do. Makes the weld look a bit rough though, so I usually grind it down and weld onto of it again all the way across.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:58 pm

I have it set just below 50. I ground off the offending beggars, and layed down some new welds.
Im happier with it anyways...



Though I did get this higgledepigglede thing...


The front end is warped in a bit, but should spring out with the brace up front.



Im quite pleased how it fits... its like it was made for it or something...

The back crossmember is tacked in place, it needs tweaked slightly.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:18 pm

I have a 14hp, a 16hp(not pictured here) a 16.5hp that *did* run. The one missing parts is a blowed up 20hp, and the other on its side is a 16hp that has a knock. I got them for parts, possibly rebuild the 20 sometime.


..and Ive hit my first fitment predicament. I would like the have the carb at the back. The exhaust doesnt have to make a U turn to escape this way and the controls would be shorter. However, this way puts the engine too far forward with the gas tank.


Turned around it sits back a bit further...


...but not enough. The hood is sitting about where it would be when its bolted down.


...and on a more interesting? note... Im thinking a dual carb setup and using some aluminum beer bottles as the air intake. I dont drink beer, but if I did it would be the red one... simply because it is a superior bottle! Its thicker, so I keep looking for one along the road somewhere  lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:52 pm

Yes, dual carburetors!!! I second that idea!! Looks great so far.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:32 pm

Dang it! TheGreenHornet and I were too late. we were gonna do dual carbs on the oppy going in his dynamark. Eh, we'll let you troubleshoot it first lol! looks good though!!
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:19 am

Cool frame man! That gas tank is very wide. I would try and find a similar one but thinner and deeper. There are a versions of that design of tank out there but that aren't as wide and have the same mounting holes. And for the dual carb thing, mr.mod put a set of Tecumseh carbs on his 14hp opposed briggs in his GTR 40 which you could check out. Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:33 pm

So I removed the plastic tank. This lets the engine sit back much further.
Saved the footboards off the green craftsman. Might be using them on this thing.



With the engine this far back, Im going to have to come up with some fancy steering linkages... I bent part of the original steering mount to get the engine where it is. The carb is in the way.




I knew Id have to do some surgery on the hood to fit an oppy like this, but never really sat down to see what needed to be done... Looks like major surgery is needed. Not sure if I wanted to do that much.
Was hoping Id just need to cut a little out of the sides.




I have the dash from an older lawn chief somewhere maybe I can use it and save the craftsman bits for another build...

So maybe I run without a hood? maybe I strap one of these big tanks in front?
Seems like a wast of a cool hood though...



Or maybe use a single cyl?

This 14.5 needs some parts for the carb. Started flooding and I robbed the bowl bolt for another engine.




I also have 2 10hp Tec flatheads that had carb troubles..

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:46 am

Its 13in wide. My frame is 12in. I could make it work.
I saved these parts, along with the hood and a few other bits thinking about a racing mower.

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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:03 am

I would stay away from trying to fit the dash and other parts onto a narrow frame. I've tried that before and you can run into problems and it doesn't look right.
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PostSubject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more!   Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:44 pm

Ehh, I think it could have worked.

But anywho. Made some tabs to hold the dash.


And thinking about suspension... I have some chunks of leaf spring that might work. The one witht eh eys on the ends is too stiff for this. My 200 some odd pound lead butt cant hardly flex it. The other 2 pieces together I think will be pretty good. Maybe it can be seen, but the one piece has some pretty good pitting in it so it might not last too long I dunno...


I also have these coil springs. About 1 3/4in or 2in across and 6 or 7in long.
My thought for these is to just make a tall spindle bracket and stick em in there with some bushings and whatnot.


Also saved these table legs thinking they would make for some good exhaust bits. Same diameter as the stock pipe coming out the engine.
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