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PostSubject: Favorite classic cars   Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:23 pm

I thought I'd try and find some genuine classic car guys on here, I'm tired of hearing kids at my school talk about friggin twin turbocharged, 5 speed, foreign fancy a$$ cars. Let's have some respect for the oldies! Anyway here are some of my favorites:
-'66 Ford Fairlane w/ 427 side oiler (favorite)
-'56 Chrysler 300B
-'60 Pontiac Bonneville
-'59 Chevrolet Impala
-'51 Ford F1
-'67 Pontiac GTO
-'61 Ford Galaxie Sunliner
-'62 Chevrolet Bel-Air
The list goes on, hahaha. But let's hear your guys' lists!
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:13 pm

'69 was a great year. My favorites are:

'69 camaro
'69 mustang
'68 charger (without the bar in the middle of the grille and round tail lights)
3rd gen camaros are pretty cool. The IROC and Z-28 in particular.

Hahahahahaha...My dad had a 3rd gen in college and insurance and just buying the dumb thing were so much for a college kid, he couldn't afford tires. Well, my dad was sleeping shotgun, his fraternity brother (and still his best friend) was driving, and two friends were in the back. Middle of the night, rainy, and bald tires... Rolling Eyes
Welp, my dad woke up in the middle of a couple 360* spins. His friend lost control of the car and they hydroplaned into the median (they were alone on a divided highway). When they came to a stop, dad and his friend that was driving slowly looked over at each other and his friend shouted... "DID YOU SEE HOW I HANDLED THAT SPIN?!?!"


*end of story*
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:36 pm

Hahahahaha!! That's actually a really funny story! Haha! I really like the Chargers as well, but the '66-'67 fastback style ones. They re-styled them in '68, not quite as nice, but still a cool car.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:37 pm

Aight i gotta get in on this one.
my favorite classics have gotta be
late 60s and early 70s mustangs
ford galaxie and galaxie 500
3rd gen chevrolet camaro (one in particular. I believe it is an SS, but not positive. but this one has a story lol! )
Pontiac GTO
"General Lee" Dodge charger
Dodge Charger Daytona
the list goes on...and on...and on. but those are a few

now to the story of the camaro

My uncle (i forget exactly where he works, but basically he gets the brand new cars that havent been released to the public and gets to beat the hell out of them on the track, on rough ground, basically everything you could think of. naturally after years of doing this, he is a very good driver.

SO he came and picked me and 2 other of my cousins up from my house to take us to his house, which is only 7 miles down the road. I live in the country. Nothing but backroads, some curvy, some straight, some gravel, some paved, some one lane ones(when anybody is coming you have to get clear off into the ditch) and some wide ones. And none of these have any cops on them.

BTW this car has the 5.7L tuned port injection, a 6 speed manual. it has all the bells and whistles. im talking boost gauges, fuel to air ratio, all that good stuff. he also has a kenwood sound system in it. its pretty kicka$$

basically, we get down the gravel road, and he just floors it. slammin inbetween gears, crashing through stop signs, taking corners at 60MPH. We scared the hell out of some old lady who was tending her garden. we came crashing 'round the corner. If memory serves, it was at 7000RPM, 3rd gear and 50 some MPH going around a corner that is a right angle. We never ever used 5th or 6th gear...and we made it all the way up to 124MPH. It was sooo much fun. Im not a chevy guy as ive said before...but man no motorhead can resist the sound of a good ol american V8 doing 7000RPM with a real nice exhaust setup. when that car idles, you can feel it in the floor. it sends shivers down my spine just thinking about it lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:47 pm

Dodge Charger Daytona eh? Nice! Pretty rare car, I personally love the look of the Daytona and the Plymouth Superbird. Very Unique styling.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:50 pm

i went up to the Gilmore Car museum up in Michigan. They had a charger Daytona, i forget what year. but ooh man it was a pretty car, and i dont even like dodge lol
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:59 pm

It makes me super sad when im on a road trip or something and i see these people that just have American classics parked behind sheds or next to corn fields that are just rusting away. sure, not all of them can be saved, but im sure a lot of them just have some minor issues, or did. not after sitting like that. Someone near my house has a 69 mustang mach 1 fastback. it has the hood scoop and says 351 Windsor along the sides. its red...or used to be red with black lettering that isnt quite black anymore. it has a broken window facing the road, other than that its just parked there. been sitting there for probably 10 years. it just makes me sad...like whyy would you do that to that car. that car in particular
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:01 pm

@AllisKidD21 wrote:
Hahahahaha!! That's actually a really funny story! Haha! I really like the Chargers as well, but the '66-'67 fastback style ones. They re-styled them in '68, not quite as nice, but still a cool car.

My cousin has a midnight blue '66 charger with a big block 318 thats got issues. A 440 will eventually be going in.

Oh I forgot to add, my dad still to this day has trouble falling asleep in the car. *now end of story* lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:04 pm

@TheGreenHornet wrote:
i went up to the Gilmore Car museum up in Michigan. They had a charger Daytona, i forget what year. but ooh man it was a pretty car, and i dont even like dodge lol
It would've been a '69, it's the only year they made 'em. And yeah, they are purty! Hahaha!
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:10 pm

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@AllisKidD21 wrote:
Hahahahaha!! That's actually a really funny story! Haha! I really like the Chargers as well, but the '66-'67 fastback style ones. They re-styled them in '68, not quite as nice, but still a cool car.

My cousin has a midnight blue '66 charger with a big block 318 thats got issues. A 440 will eventually be going in.

Oh I forgot to add, my dad still to this day has trouble falling asleep in the car. *now end of story* lol!

Nice!! Sounds like a beauty, first year too!
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:40 am

I dont think Chrysler has a big block 318?
Motor Trend did a build on a 200k+ miles 318 with just bolt on parts and made nearly 400hp for around $1200.


Them Charger Daytonas and Superbirds are awesome cars. The wing and nose helped them break 200mph. They did pretty well on the race track too... back when it was interesting, nowadays they all look the same.
Not very many were made, barely enough to get them into racing. Supposedly, some of them were counted twice. lol!


I like the early 70s and 60s Mopars. Id like to get my grubby mitts on a Dodge Demon, then name it "The Screamon Demon". Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:05 pm

He may be thinking of 383 big block. A Dodge Demon, those are pretty cool. I like the tail lights on the early 70's Demons. The 'Birds and the Daytonas were really cool. I'd love a Superbird, but they are very rare, only made them for one year sadly. Oh well hahaha.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:24 pm

Nope it's a big block 318. Not to be confused with the small block 318. They weren't very popular and only put in a few cars, but they exist lol. There isn't any aftermarket for them to speak of, which is why they're putting a 440 in. The one thats in it I think has a lot of blow-by, possibly cracked heads, and water is getting in the heads. It's rough. The paint is good though haha, its only peeling a little bit on the trunk lid. I think it has a white leather interior too, but its been a while since I seen it.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:34 pm

Oh ok, fair enough. Is that the original motor in the car from the factory?
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:19 pm

@CraftsmanQuad19 wrote:
Nope it's a big block 318. Not to be confused with the small block 318. They weren't very popular and only put in a few cars, but they exist lol. There isn't any aftermarket for them to speak of, which is why they're putting a 440 in. The one thats in it I think has a lot of blow-by, possibly cracked heads, and water is getting in the heads. It's rough. The paint is good though haha, its only peeling a little bit on the trunk lid. I think it has a white leather interior too, but its been a while since I seen it.

You must be talking about the 413 ci. Chrysler big block. Sorry no 318 is a big block, no matter how much you try. The 413 was a work motor put in RV's and dump trucks mainly. The 440 was a punched out, stroked version of that same motor, engine block family.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:24 pm

Maybe its a poly 318? People call them a "wide block"?

My brother had a Dodge 330 with a poly 318. I dont remember much about it cept it was painted red. scratch
Seems to me, the polys arnt terribly common. I wouldnt mind having one in something just to be different.


How does the 400 big block compare to a 413?
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:03 pm

Alright, I got some cars for you all. LOL.

Back in the day, 20 something years ago, LOL, use to street race some, LOL. Yah, Them cars, you all are talking about were considered "Gas Guzzlers" and the car lots would have a hard time selling them. That Camaro I-ROCK was $800 mint at a car lot, LOL. What a shame, now there a car everybody wants. Too bad the V8 overdrive trans in them was junk, LOL.

Anywho...... Me and my friends never had alot of money but we did have tools and a little money. I'll name some cars and what we would do to them to make them win up against the cars you all was naming off. But keep in mind, these cars and parts were all stock. Tried and true combo's, LOL.

Car #1- 73-74 Buick Electra 225, We called them Dues and a Quarter, LOL. This car was a buddy's grandmother's car. Had to do little to it because it had a 455 motor. Buick was great at making torque off the line. Just put high octane in the tank and your winning against second gen V8 Camaro's.

Car #2- 77 Olds Cutlass Supreme with a 350 Rocket. These cars were a dime a dozen and the junkyards were littered with them. It being a 77 meant it would have all that smog crap on the motor with a cat under. Step one was ripping all that smog crap off the motor, funny thing was it still would pass emissions testing until step 2 was cutting off the cat, weld in cherry bomb, cut pipe before the rear axle and spin it 180 degrees to exit before the rear tire on passenger side. This setup was real quick and would beat any Big Block car at the sacrifice of spinning a bearing, blowing the oil pump, or just throwing a piston rod through the hood. No big deal, remember, a dime a dozen,LOL.

Car #3- 73 to about 78 I think Nova with a 305. Again a dime a dozen car but the 305 would take the beating as like the Cutlass above but keep running. Do the same thing to this car as what was done to the Cutlass and change the 2 speed auto to a 350 turbo trans, but was a little slower so beating any small block car was no problem and was able to drive it to work the next day maybe, if you didn't blow the trans in it, LOL.

OK, now to the cars we would build.
Car #4 78 and 79 Monte Carlo's with a 425 Cadillac motor in it. This car would blow out the drive shaft every time the rears would hook up, Nothing beats Cadillac torque, not even Buick, LOL. The 10 bolt rear end never lasted either. Setup was, all smog crap off motor, cat gone, duel cherry bombs (if we had the money), change the yoke on driveshaft from the 350 to the 400 yoke and the motor/trans would bolt right in. The Monte would be the 6 cyl. one and that Caddy motor would drop the front end right to the ground, LOL. This would rule the roads as long as you kept the motor at or below 5000 rpm. Hard to do when neck to neck with a SS Chevelle.

Car #5 78 and 79 Monte Carlo with a 350 Rocket. Again, would bolt right in like the Caddy motor with the same result in a race as the Caddy motor and Olds motor. Them 2 motors had a problem holding together above 5 grand, But you still would win the race, LOL.

Car #6 69 Le Mans with a Chevy 350 and 3 speed manual trans out of a pickup. Cheaper version of the GTO and way easier to get a hold of. Truck parts was real easy to get and usually 4 bolt mains in block and usually would get the trans 3 speed for free because nobody would want it, LOL. Bullet proof setup as long as you kept it under 6 grand and headers would be killer on the motor and spend the money on a hot cam. Again beat anything on the road with 4.11 rear in a 12 bolt for when you dumped the clutch on the launch. Very hard to get the car to hook up but fun to watch when my friend would launch the car just for fun, LOL.

Here's a car worth mentioning in stock form.
I think it was a 78 Chrysler LeBaron with a 318 with a 1 barrel and an auto 3 speed. This car would beat those 80's 5.0 mustang's with no problem. Every time you would floor it, the trans would whine so bad you would think it was going to explode. This car would take such a beating that we would feel bad for it and stop. LOL. My friends sister eventually scraped the car because it had a bad frame.

Hope you all like my cars.

Oh, I currently am driving an 84 Jeep grand Wagoneer with a 360 AMC motor, Warmed up and probably puts out about 300 hp, LOL. It don't sit in the driveway, I drive it everyday.




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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:09 pm

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Maybe its a poly 318? People call them a "wide block"?

My brother had a Dodge 330 with a poly 318. I dont remember much about it cept it was painted red. scratch
Seems to me, the polys arnt terribly common. I wouldnt mind having one in something just to be different.


How does the 400 big block compare to a 413?

Same engine block family. The 413 had it's own bore and stroke for the power they was after I guess. I seen that 413 in alot of drag cars, people would get that motor and put it in there car. I'm sure it had it's unique qualities people were after or was just cheaper then the 440, not to sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:23 pm

Yes, TheBeal is correct. I believe it's what they call the "Wide Block" ......so its not a big block? by nickname either?


And if we're mentioning some bada$$ engines, we can't leave out the 351 Cleveland or the chevy 396. Both of those things would flat haul.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:07 pm

Prancstaman, your post makes me wish I didn't grow up in the age of ricey foreign cars hahaha! I swear I'm the only kid in my school who knows or even cares about the old girls at all. That's why I like talking to the older guys at car shows (that is after I let them know I'm not just a clueless kid by guessing the year of their car and asking a buncha questions hahaha!) Thanks for the cool stories!
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:22 pm

The 351 Cleveland was pretty rare in my day. The equivalent was the 351m and the 400m. They was the newer version of the 351 Cleveland, even the heads were interchangeable I think. But the same design. Not really a good street engine because it lacked low end power. It was designed for high rpm and high rpm was useless on the street. The 396, nobody wanted back in the day. You couldn't even give those things away. Now adays, a junk 396 is like gold and can't even find them, funny how that is. Big Blocks are strong motors but they like to dump a valve into a piston on a high rev. Everybody I know who races at the drag track would swap out a Big Block and build up a Small Block that would last the season just because of the Big Block dumping the valve into the piston unless if you got the money to beef up the valve train in those and it takes alot of money to do that.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:24 pm

@AllisKidD21 wrote:
Prancstaman, your post makes me wish I didn't grow up in the age of ricey foreign cars hahaha! I swear I'm the only kid in my school who knows or even cares about the old girls at all. That's why I like talking to the older guys at car shows (that is after I let them know I'm not just a clueless kid by guessing the year of their car and asking a buncha questions hahaha!) Thanks for the cool stories!

Sure thing. Glad you like them. I got more...........LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:28 pm

Personally, I think there are some good imports. The mid to late 90s Toyota Supra is by far my favorite. Civics aren't bad, subarus are aight, Mazda RX7's are pretty cool with their 2 rotor rotary engines. It's just that most people just don't know how to make them fast. they add a stupid wing, dumb bodykit, add camber, and a "performance" (fart can) exhaust and think their car hauls A$$ when really it just looks stupid. NEVER mistake a tuner for a ricer. The oldies are great, don't get me wrong. But its amazing what you can do with boost, DOHC, EFI, and some tuning.
Think about back when the last generation was modifying their muscle cars. The older guys back then probably stuck with a chopped and dropped model A with a small block chevy. Still cool, but a different era.

That being said, I'm gonna build my 2000 chevy impala. Yes, its front wheel drive and yes, its a v6. But I want to see what it'll do. Isn't that why we all modify stuff? To see what it can do?
It has a 3.4 liter 60 degree v6 in it now that makes 180 horse at the crank. I'm going to put a supercharged 3.8 liter 90 degree v6 in it with forged aluminum pistons, connecting rods, cam, port the heads, bigger throttle body, high flow headers, bigger downpipes, high flow cats, and a full stainless magna flow cat-back. To get it all to the ground, bulletproofed tranny with a shift kit and limited slip differential. The body will remain un-altered.

People can all do their own thing, and thats what's great about building your own machine. whether it's for the drag strip, daily driver, or the mud.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:38 pm

@CraftsmanQuad19 wrote:
Yes, TheBeal is correct. I believe it's what they call the "Wide Block"   ......so its not a big block? by nickname either?


And if we're mentioning some bada$$ engines, we can't leave out the 351 Cleveland or the chevy 396. Both of those things would flat haul.

Yah, Wide Block don't mean anything. Just a fancy name to sell it just because it has something bolted to it, still just a small block. Here's something you kids might not know. Those 318, 340, 360 engine blocks, all of them, which means all passenger cars, all trucks, all vans, all station wagons with those motors in them for all years. Chrysler casted the engine blocks as race blocks. Which means when they melted the cast iron, they mixed in more nickle to the mix which makes the cast iron harder, the same mix everybody else used only in their race blocks. Don't know if Chrysler Big Blocks was like that but all Chrysler Small Block V8's, or shall I say Mopar, are all race blocks.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite classic cars   Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:45 pm

A guy I know just bought a near mint '73 Mustang Mach 1 with a big block 351 Cleveland in it. 2-barrel carb, points and condenser ignition, no A/C, really cool car!
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