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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:45 am

3/8" would probably do, but I would go up to 1/2" just for comfort. I'd wanna know for damn sure I'm not gonna break the thing.
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:23 am

Yeah , the cost is the issue on those things tho
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:52 pm

Got some work done on Christmas and this afternoon , Finally moved the shock support forward and made higher brackets to lower the frame some . today i made and put on a sway bar and mounts .


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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:18 pm

Hey that track rod setup looks pretty good! Should work fine. Decided on a link setup plan yet?
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:26 pm

I will go with a three link because i have three more atv tie rods with that style of ball joint ( Chinese quad parts lol) its pretty solid with the track rod on it
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:39 pm

Ah, nice! As long as you orient the joints the proper way on the axle it should work great. Make sure the 3-link bars aren't at a super steep angle either.
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:44 pm

They will be almost level with the frame when I'm done with them so they should have good movement
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:46 pm

Yeah that would be best, mine aren't quite that level but they are at a nice enough angle to work good. Can't wait to see some pictures! Haha.
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:49 pm

Why ? its not like suspension is your favorite topic or anything ak , LOL yeah when i get more done i will post some glamour shots
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:51 pm

Hahaha, sounds good.
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:55 pm

here yea go ak , some pics of my evenings work . Its starting to look like something i will be proud to drive .
theres the other side in.
front view of linkages
some more pics of the design
looking big and black again !
Needs some severe hood modification to make the hood fit again .
Heres the reason there isnt a third link on the top of the setup.
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:06 pm

Looks super cool, must be smooth to ride!
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:10 pm

Thanks , I dot know yet sadly , still need a link on top and a drag link for steering which will be very interesting to make because of my bottom linkages
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:08 am

looks good, just brace up your frame side mounts before you ride it much, they look like they would bend with a good hit. I love seeing all these front suspension builds. Makes me want to build one
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:20 pm

Looks good biggas! Only thing I would do is turn the lower joints 90* so once all the links are done and bolted up the axle doesn't want to tilt back and forth. It looks good though, very clean looking!
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:24 pm

@Creepycrawler wrote:
looks good, just brace up your frame side mounts before you ride it much, they look like they would bend with a good hit. I love seeing all these front suspension builds. Makes me want to build one
Yeah i will be putting in bottom braces on the frame for those , and they are just tacked in place cause i ran out of wire
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:26 pm

@AllisKidD21 wrote:
Looks good biggas! Only thing I would do is turn the lower joints 90* so once all the links are done and bolted up the axle doesn't want to tilt back and forth. It looks good though, very clean looking!
i might do that if its too much rocking . not sure how it would help much by rotating them because of the joint style
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:54 am

Worked on it till midnight last night . got the top link in and burned in some more welds and cleaned it up a bit .

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:27 am

Bit of a unique 3 link setup.  I see with the new pix what Allis was saying, but I think I see where you are going with it too.    Only thing I can possibly see is like allis said is the tilting.  Not so much due to the link angles, I think your shocks will handle that. I think because your panhard is on the back, your center link is low giving less top side support.  Just some food for thought.

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:18 pm

When i put the track bar on i was planning on doing one on the front too for but i ran out of atv linkages and had too lose the front track bar and went to a three link instead of four .
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:27 pm

All its missing is a drag link , i also found some softer coil overs to give it more absorbtion but havent picked them up yet,
This is my solution to putting in a single drag link while still using the murray steering system .
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:31 pm

Looking really clean biggas! I wouldn't rely on the coilovers to hold the axle from tilting though, they're not meant for that and that's how they get snapped off. Gonna be a test drive video once she's sll done?
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:35 pm

Would you look over it really closely and see what the weak points might be so i can look out for issues and fix them ? How would i twist the coil overs? i moved the bottom links down on the axle and the top one coulb be higher if i moved my track bar to the front
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:21 pm

Well it looks good but I drew a couple things out to show you.

Basically just refering to the joints being vertical on your axle. When I mounted my center link that way it wouldn't lock the axle solid and it would try and tilt back and forth. I just welded the joint solid and it fixed it.





Also maybe add a couple of gussets to the mounts just so they dont try and bend.



Other than that it seems okay!
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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:32 pm

Thanks , will most likely do that , would hiem joints do better in the current locations?. But , I DID get it driving !!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor    Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:22 pm

No problemo! Heim joints would work great, then you could do U-brackets like this:



Nice job on getting 'er driving too! Hows she ride? And the flex?
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