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PostSubject: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:29 pm

Here here!
So the plan:
Murray GT 46380X50B, is down to pieces. This project will be called "The Donkey" or as donkey is called in Estonia "eesel".

- clutch will be modified to handle some speed and towing (double)
- pulley swap, not for speed but it should do max 35mph
- the engine gets a good haul, already started, it had water inside and the left lower cilinder has some micro damage.
- peerless 820-029 is already cleaned from the awful grease and waiting for oil, gears are in excellent condition
- wont lock the diff
- carburetor (3 screw) is almost done, the fuel pump needs a little tinkeing
- i have to build some kind of bumper
- must get a good looking beer holder - that's a must
- engine is 18hp opposite briggs, it is in some dissassembled state, but if i get the head gaskets, then i can put that together.
- will try to keep most of the parts to theyr original state, that goes for the whole donkey (just finished cleaning the nuts and bolts)
- last but not least, will do some painting, this means original color.

Here are two pictures of my work ahead, hope it gets me into the 50% pile Razz



Now we have some good colds coming, so i dont know when i get to work on it, weekly i hope but i need it to be ready at least for spring.



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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:50 am

Good luck and best wishes, very happy to see your entry. cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:20 am

@duuds Please update your thread! Other members please refrain from responding until thread owner updates.

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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:54 am

Hello, yes i was away for a bit, and got me a son.
How come atltf de-activates so soon an account and i have to reset my password...
Some builds take time, i dont want to share every nut and bolt, i wanna do some work and then maybe "show-off" - if i have to post every week something, then fine, will try to post something bjuutiful. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:53 am

Congratulations on the son!  I am unaware of account deactivation, that is @Doug's department.  As for updates; you do not have to post something every week.  We just ask that you post a little something each month so the admins can see progress.  You do not have to post every little nut and bolt.

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Under the section:
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Entrants MUST update their thread at least monthly detailing progress, with either write ups and/or photos. 

So you don't even have to send pictures, just something like.  "Worked on Steering and some paint this month."  and it would probably be good. 


Again, congratulations on the son!  I bet he will take a lot of your time!  Kids are pretty awesome!

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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Thu May 10, 2018 4:05 pm

Good Morning\Evening

Now, cause of me, the rules were changed, so i will try to set up a post,for this month.
I have made some improvements and i have gotten to somewhere.
Now, i made an upgrade to my gearbox brake:

I will attach a wire leader to my clutch pedal, so if i dis-engage the clutch, i have to push more to brake, so two in one.

I changed the pulleys, on the engine and the gearbox:

On the gearbox is a bit bigger than the engine one, but lot smaller than the factory one, as i said - i dont need a formula, i need speed and "pauer".

Now, i have a small "need help" on one thing - the governor on what ever it may be called...Razz
I know you all have all sorts of knowledge and experience but i sadly dont have...
So, how much of the governor should i keep and where should i connect my gas pedal and the thing that i cant find the right word....in Estonian its called "toores" - its the knob that you pull, when you start your engine, when its cold...darn what was the word....




Also, i have heard from youtube many opinions if to keep the governor or not...so if possible, please a lil help.

Forgot one thing...what wire is this?


The frame and everything else is painted, except the hood, i dont know what to do with it...maybe someday i know...but now i dont like the plastic...too weak.

Small question, what should i use, to the nuts that keep the gearbox together? i know that if i dont use anything, then aluminium and steel dont work well...corrosion and so on...

Cheers mates!


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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Thu May 10, 2018 4:09 pm

That is the magnito wire, for killing the engine. I'd recommend either keeping the gov or opening the engine up and removing it.

Do you mean the choke?
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Thu May 10, 2018 4:11 pm

@Double W Cross Ranch wrote:
Do you mean the choke?
<- yeah CHOKE! thanks mate.
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Thu May 10, 2018 4:11 pm

@duuds wrote:
@Double W Cross Ranch wrote:
Do you mean the choke?
<- yeah CHOKE! thanks mate.
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Thu May 10, 2018 4:24 pm

a little lesson for yall:
"choke" means in Estonian to choke someone and "toores" means in English "raw" - example: "this meat is too raw"

choke = kägistama
raw = toores
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Thu May 10, 2018 5:17 pm

Raw must mean cold, like cold start. We say choke because we are choking the engine. We are blocking off (most of) the air going in
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Thu May 10, 2018 7:17 pm

i’m a big fan of keeping the governor so you don’t over rev of the engine. if you decide to remove the governor you need to remove it from inside the engine and I really suggest getting a tachometer.

I would not worry at all about the steel bolts and the aluminum housing.

that’s a nice looking taper lock pulley
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sun May 13, 2018 7:15 am

forgot one thing, i have red circles on my pics. So, just to be sure, to where i connectr my gas pedal and to where the choke? And why.
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sun May 13, 2018 9:02 pm

Choke



Throttle

although depending which way the cable comes in, it could be the other side.

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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sat May 26, 2018 3:45 pm

Howdy...
Some updates:
everything that was gery got a repaint - rust was removed before
as you can see, im working on putting it together
start button and kill swich
down under - clutch is done and now its only gearbox on and its done.

needs to be done:
wiring...already started
the hood...i still dont know how to do it, so it looks better than the original bugeye, i have ideas but...lets see.

overall i try to keep it close to original as possible, but with my own twist.





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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:59 am

Howdy...
Some updates.
Wiring:




Front, note, the paint is better now, the sides are trimmed:


Pedal:


Overall:



Info:
* the seat is in progress, will do an oldschool tractor seat.
* the ignition coil is dead, new one on his way.
* wont do to the front much more, lights will be installed(led) and if i get one thing done, maybe one day it will look very very mean.
* transferbox has Bardahl 80W90 and the engine 10W30 <- both are in my mind good quality.

Little help:  Question
There are coming two wires underneath the flywheel, one red and one black -> do i get it right when i say so: the red one goes straight to your battery for charging and other one you can use for front lights. <- question is, how to use the black wire for front lights, if its the negative side? if you get what i mean.
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:24 am

I am not sure if they wires have any different polarity as the stator bolts to the engine and that is direct grounded . I have run lights off of either wire and it works fine for me, but the black wire might be less current for trickle charging the battery and the white wire is higher voltage for light applications. Not sure but that's what I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:13 pm

@biggasmowers wrote:
I am not sure if they wires have any different polarity as the stator bolts to the engine and that is direct grounded . I have run lights off of either wire and it works fine for me, but the black wire might be less current for trickle charging the battery and the white wire is higher voltage for light applications. Not sure but that's what I think.
thanks, i will look into it.

Now, theres a huge problem, i got the donkey running but with only the stroke on, maybe 6-7mm i can open it and then starts the agony...it runds and then dies and then runs <- before it dies it starts to rev up and then again going to die. So please some help, i know you have seen it many times but im a newbie. I have repaired the carburetor with a repair kit, also i have a new ignition coil and sparkplugs...
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:24 pm

Hmmm, to me that kinda sounds like an air leak. Are there any bad or missing gaskets for the carb or intake manifold?

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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:29 pm

bad gaskets - not tahat i kow... carb has new gaskets from top to bottom and also the carb gaskets to intake manifold are also new.
The cilinder head gaskets are also new.
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:50 pm



99% same symtoms
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:59 pm

I would say there's something blocking a jet in the carb or there's somethi g in the diaphram. Or your plugs could be worn but not very likely
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:41 pm

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I would say there's something blocking a jet in the carb or there's somethi g in the diaphram. Or your plugs could be worn but not very likely
Which jet you mean?
my diapharm you mean the fuel pump and that assembly? thats all new, with the smallspings and so...
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:50 pm

@biggasmowers wrote:
I would say there's something blocking a jet in the carb or there's somethi g in the diaphram. Or your plugs could be worn but not very likely

...and, by plugs you mean what? Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Duuds Build Off 2018 "The Donkey" aka "Eesel" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:09 pm

Spark plugs. Sorry for not clarifying.
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