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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:25 pm

does'nt look like a Peerless. 930 has some differences, and it's no MST. a Spicer? or Foote?

the Locker looks interesting. But I think I will go for the Doc Locker, cuz it looks like the sturdiest way to go.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:42 pm

It's his own idea of a zinc or lead locker, and seems to be pretty good. It's a Spicer 6 speed, stock out of the mower I think
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:58 pm

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It's his own idea of a zinc or lead locker, and seems to be pretty good. It's a Spicer 6 speed, stock out of the mower I think

the Zinc locker Vid I had seen. Time will tell how long spicer will hold up. I do'nt really think it will last forever.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:18 pm

I think the main weak points on this transaxle is the case and maybe the steel bushings
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:21 pm

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It's his own idea of a zinc or lead locker, and seems to be pretty good. It's a Spicer 6 speed, stock out of the mower I think

the Zinc locker Vid I had seen. Time will tell how long spicer will hold up. I do'nt really think it will last forever.

The Original Spicer bomb AKA the original zinc locker trans is very alive and well. It spent an entire winter plowing my driveway in MMM. It then lived a very over worked underpaid summer in my 18HP go kart Hauling brush every other weekend. From there it has ended up in 2 other machines as a loner till they could get an MST with better gears. Now Hands down a Doc locker with full bearing install is way better. But this is a Spicer and other then a buck or 2 of propane this locker is free to make and entirely reversible at any point in time.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:31 pm

I was going to say, if you didn't want to buy an axle or weld. The zinc locker would be the great way to go.  Just no place for play in that gear.  cheers

As others mentioned that does put the weak point on the case and that is only if you have a lot of jumping and bouncing of some sort. (same weakness for those that weld the gears together fearless style)  Any activity to make the case want to "V" in the middle.  (Rider weight has a bit to do with it too  affraid

If MMM's other one lasted (still is), I don't see any reason this one would not last too!  It's all a matter of how much you abuse your stuff.

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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:55 pm



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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:44 pm

Ooh pics! I’m likin the progress!

I’m trying to remove the 2nd gen steering box from a parts tractor I have, how would I go about doing that? Because the arm on the pivot below the frame won’t fit through the hole in the frame
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:51 pm

Nice new pics!  I saw the articulation in one of your blog videos.  Lookin sweet.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:00 pm

@CraftsmanQuad19 wrote:
Ooh pics! I’m likin the progress!

I’m trying to remove the 2nd gen steering box from a parts tractor I have, how would I go about doing that? Because the arm on the pivot below the frame won’t fit through the hole in the frame

It fits but you have to have it turned just right. If your looking at it in your hand and think of a clock face. Set the pivot center of face the rest as 6ock then turn the arm to 9ock. It drops in arm first then turn whole unit flat as it bottoms out. Removal turn arm to to point opposite side of brake then flip up steering box like you are opening a book to that side and pull straight up.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:17 pm

And does the steering shaft itself have to come off?
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:12 pm

Oh nice....

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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:16 pm

@CraftsmanQuad19 wrote:
And does the steering shaft itself have to come off?

Yes the shaft to the steering wheel has to come off.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:01 am

The Paint looks good, the Tires so sick! Are those Bearclaws better than Mudlites? they're 1" wider but the tread does'nt look like a smooth ride as the Mudlites tell in their Desctiption
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:57 am

Looking good, not a lot of room for shock towers though, eh?
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:03 am

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@CraftsmanQuad19 wrote:
And does the steering shaft itself have to come off?

Yes the shaft to the steering wheel has to come off.

Ok, thank you!
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:46 am

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Looking good, not a lot of room for shock towers though, eh?

Yup going to be close. Hood mods had already been in the works.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:51 am

The basic plan at this point is to loosely bolt the engine in place then decide on the shock tower and cross beam. The Stock lights on a craftsman suck so I plan to bug eye it with some Auxbeam 4inch pods. Should be a full week of rain for me so garage work is finally on the table and time to break out the welder and grinder.
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:28 pm

Time to sort out some coil towers that fit under the stock hood if possible.



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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:02 pm

@Maine Mud Mower wrote:
Time to sort out some coil towers that fit under the stock hood if possible.


are your coilover going to contact the side of the frame when flexing? Right side
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:30 pm

I think it is just laying up there against the engine right now.

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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:27 am

Your Pivot Point is still there, just shocks for the sides to control pivoting?
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:54 am

Pivot is long gone the new setup works like a 2WD Ranger i beam suspension.
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Decided the only way to get the wheel geometry on the front right was to build the custom rims. If anyone care to make their own I will add the original how to on the bottom of this post.






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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:53 am

Ahh. Looks interesting. I just do'nt think the connection between the box steel and the stock axle is the sturdiest, it could break probably.

The Front Tire Upgrade is cool! Is the ride smooth, or really rough with them? Probably will buy the same tires
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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:27 am

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Ahh. Looks interesting. I just do'nt think the connection between the box steel and the stock axle is the sturdiest, it could break probably.

The Front Tire Upgrade is cool! Is the ride smooth, or really rough with them? Probably will buy the same tires

Inspect a little closer...  That pic he showed you from early on showing the dual I beam I believe the stock axle ends were just stuck on at that time.  Not welded.  If you look at the more recent image.

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You can see the 2 square tubes welded together make up the whole opening to the stock axle giving more surface welding making it stronger than that first images appears.

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PostSubject: Re: Maine Mud Mower "Mud Wizard" [2018 Build-Off Entry]   Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:00 pm

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@SebastianAlbrecht wrote:
Ahh. Looks interesting. I just do'nt think the connection between the box steel and the stock axle is the sturdiest, it could break probably.

The Front Tire Upgrade is cool! Is the ride smooth, or really rough with them? Probably will buy the same tires

Inspect a little closer...  That pic he showed you from early on showing the dual I beam I believe the stock axle ends were just stuck on at that time.  Not welded.  If you look at the more recent image.

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You can see the 2 square tubes welded together make up the whole opening to the stock axle giving more surface welding making it stronger than that first images appears.


Ohh. I'm sure if anything breaks @Maine Mud Mower will show it us in his Vids. I will go for a reinforced stock axle in my build.
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