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PostSubject: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 20, 2018 1:37 am

Bought this today for 50$ It has a hydrostatic transmission. It is shaft driven by a 16 HP single cylinder Kohler. It weighs a ton so I had to tow it into my covered area with the help of the lt4000. One of the front tires has a lot of camber and the other one is flat. I will have to figure out the issue. It has a what seems to be homemade PTO and a very solid front bumper. My plans are to clean it up, get it running and leave it stock. I just love the look of it. I might get a new seat and repaint some parts but I will put this project on hold for now.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 20, 2018 1:40 am

Sweet Cub Muck! Cool that she's got an ol' K341 in 'er, should be a real nice engine once it's up and running.

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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 20, 2018 10:50 am

Oh yea, she should be plenty power full. I need to add oil before I forget. Its pretty dry in there. I'm hoping he just drained it. I haven't tried t to turn it over yet.


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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 20, 2018 11:02 am

Nice find! too bad it isnt geared tho, could use it for pulling! i need to go pick up my cub, just havent gotten around to it cause its 2 hrs away.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 20, 2018 11:40 am

I think I want to use it for pulling. I always said to myself that if I got a shaft drive I would use it for pulling.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 20, 2018 1:57 pm

The piece on the back is the mounting plate and gearbox for the rear mounted tiller. I think they are fairly sought after so if you decided to sell it, you could easily make back your money and then some. It just looks like someone might have welded on a piece of flat plate to the back for the trailer hitch ball which might interfere with the tiller mounting arms but it would be easy to remove if needed. You can google Cub cadet 1a tiller manual if you want to see the parts diagrams. You also have the top lift part for the rear hitch which is a nice plus.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 20, 2018 7:01 pm

Yeah, It's one serious GT. You are right it is a 1A tiller attachment. Do you know how it works? To me it just look like a RAGB. How is it propelled?
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 20, 2018 7:07 pm

Legendary $50 find man.  Those old cub cadet Hydros are built like tanks and it has a Kohler!  That hydro isn't built like a cheap throw away hydro found in a modern day lawn tractor.  That front bumper looks like it could knock over a house!
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 20, 2018 9:41 pm

hahaha yeah! Thanks Carl. I was pretty excited when I saw this and just by luck he had just posted it. I just need to figure out how to get a key for it.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 20, 2018 9:44 pm

If it's an oddball key, I would hotwire it after you add oil to the engine.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 12:12 am

Adding oil to it is kinda weird. The oil tube kinda curves into the block so It shows that I have enough oil but when you look down the tube with a flashlight it is empty. I think i'm gonna go find a manual.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 12:17 am

Can you maybe snap a quick picture of it?

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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 1:52 am

Of the oil?
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 2:25 am

No I meant of the oil fill tube. I couldn't quite picture it, haha.

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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 9:57 am

It is basically just a right angle gear box. I'm pretty sure it just uses a long belt that runs up to the front pto like the mower deck belt would. It would be kind of cool to build a 3 point mower to run off the rear pto.

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Yeah, It's one serious GT. You are right it is a 1A tiller attachment. Do you know how it works? To me it just look like a RAGB. How is it propelled?
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 10:53 am

Looks like a rear tiller mount.  Runs off the mower PTO I think.  Looks like it has a lift point too?

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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 11:18 am

Is the lift point the rod coming out the back above the PTO? Sorry guys i'm kinda new to this thing. It's the first not craftsman thing I work on ahaha
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 12:09 pm

Yeah, I believe so. You can hang a 3pt or sleeve off that I think.

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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 4:17 pm

There is also something on the right hand side footboard. Anyone know what it is?
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 4:23 pm

Here is the oil situation.
So as you can see, down the tube, there is almost no visible oil, but when you take the dipstick out, there is evidently oil. The tube kinda curves down into the block at the bottom. So I take it it has enough oil?
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 4:33 pm

I think if the dipstick reads full, then your good.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 7:44 pm

But i'm afraid that it isn't the stock dipstick then. Anyways, I shouldn't be worrying about that yet. I need to figure out the electrical. I put the battery to charge. I shaped a craftsman key with the bench grinder and now I can turn the ignition so i'm assuming it'll work. If the rear lights don't have bulbs, that shouldn't interfere with the starting should it? I don't think so. I can only see 1 wire that is cut but I don't know it's purpose or if it matters yet.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 9:19 pm

That dipstick is very similar to the one on my K301.  The oil pan on these Kohlers is way down on the bottom so that dipstick has to go a long way down.  So don't worry about it.  The rear lights have nothing to do with the ignition circuit.  I wonder where that cut wire goes though.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 9:25 pm

I will get a picture. doesn't look too concerning though.
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PostSubject: Re: International Cub Cadet 1650   International Cub Cadet 1650 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 21, 2018 9:46 pm

If the dipstick show oil in the cross-hatching, then she should be good to go. Also make sure when you go to try and start it you have a battery with a good charge, or it might not make very good spark and possibly won't fire.

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