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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeThu Jun 28, 2018 7:06 pm

Oh, apparently someone didnt tell me my gasket came like 2 days ago lol! guess I'll go clean the shop and get started on this

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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeThu Jun 28, 2018 11:59 pm

Excellent! Love how you can still get some old parts.

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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 29, 2018 2:00 am

I'm hardly doing a rebuild, I'm just replacing a few parts.

Got it all apart and surveyed the damage.

The inner axle seals were displaced and letting oil through(explains the problem i was having) and these roller bearings were all blown apart, and the shims/thrust washers behind the spider gears were broken. Remind me to just cut the wheels off next time, lol...
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I got a close enough OD measurement and found a part number for these bearings. Guess I'm lucky peerless uses almost all off-the-shelf parts rather than in house parts.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 29, 2018 2:01 am

Are you going to lock it, I need to see how it's done please
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 29, 2018 6:13 pm

I'm going to fozzy lock it like i did with my 820. Peerless 820, 1200, and 2300 series share the same design differential.
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Ordered a pair of NTA-1423 thrust bearings from ebay, should be here before next friday or so.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 29, 2018 9:04 pm

So it has spider gears then?  I thought it had pinion gears.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 29, 2018 10:10 pm

I think the LSD versions have a special multi-pinion differential, but the normal ones like Rich's and Mighty's are just the standard kinda deal.

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@AllisKidD21 wrote:
I think the LSD versions have a special multi-pinion differential, but the normal ones like Rich's and Mighty's are just the standard kinda deal.

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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeSat Jun 30, 2018 4:09 am

Yep, this is the regular version.

Some little stuff i didnt mention before.
-The shifter cup gasket came off in one piece, lucky me. I'll reuse it.

-The shifter itself had let in a lot of water. I'll have to replace that seal eventually but I don't think it's a big deal right now, I don't even have it driving yet lol.

-There is a little knurled part that prevents the diff carrier halves from coming off, right before the splines for the spiders gears start. On both sides, when I tried to drive the axles out, a sleeve that was pressed into the diff carrier(oddly enough, 1" OD, so if I were going live axle, I wouldnt even have to drill the sides out to 7/8") came out of the diff carrier sides and stayed on the axle halves. I pushed it back from the knurled part and ground the knurled part off on the bench grinder so I could assemble and disassemble the carrier easily. I don't get why they made a whole extra step of knurling that little 1/8" part, especially after the diff carrier halves and needle bearings are on. Possibly just a thing to ease assembly. Who knows.

-The input shaft is splined. Shouldn't have expected much else from an MTD order. Luckily the pulley came right off. In the future I can probably turn the shaft down to 5/8" if I really want to pulley swap it, without doing the whole pulley hub swap thing.

Oh, and some thoughts towards locking this thing. I'm going to have to do a really clean weld job with the fozzy and build the welds up so the axles/spiders are as tight as possible. This diff carrier is open to the rest of the trans, I don't want any metal particles getting into the bearings and such. Maybe I should consider a magnetic drain plug just in case? Lol

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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeSat Jun 30, 2018 6:51 am

If this were a steel housing you could just put a couple of magnets in the bottom of the case and it wouldn't go anywhere, but since is aluminum I think the drain plug would work better.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeSat Jun 30, 2018 6:54 am

The case is cast iron(or steel, I'm not sure). If i had a few rare earth magnets I'd stick them in there, but i kinda don't lol.
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Mine came with a magnetic drain plug. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeSat Jun 30, 2018 10:32 am

Both the fill and drain plugs on mine have magnets in them
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Hm, mine didnt seem to. I didn't really look though, lol.

Only thing i did for this rig today was patch the left front tube and run the engine a little bit.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 02, 2018 4:09 pm

Roller bearings got here today
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 02, 2018 7:07 pm

So was the internals rusty? On mine the cast iron was the only thing that rusted up and the gears just had a mild surface rust that didn't wear them out
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There was some water in there and a bit of surface rust in a few spots but it's all good really.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 03, 2018 12:28 am

Got to filling in the first tooth and the mig ran out of gas. Naturally, lol
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 03, 2018 11:53 pm

My dad got another bottle but i was busy tonight almost blowing my hands off with fireworks so.
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Weooo
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Man this thing is tight. No slop at all.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeFri Jul 06, 2018 3:41 pm

Nice job on the fozzy lock.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeSat Jul 07, 2018 10:29 pm

I just spent like a half hour looking for the bearings for this thing but then i remembered i put em in the freezer lol
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PostSubject: Re: MTD - "Budgie"    MTD - "Budgie"  - Page 4 Icon_minitimeSat Jul 07, 2018 10:57 pm

The freezer is definitely an unusual place to put something like that and easy to forget after a few days. 

Do you have it assembled yet?
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No i can't get something to neener align or mesh so the case halves will come all the way together
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