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That's a 2 year warranty when it's new Carl, haha
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lol! lol! lol!

No Warranty Anymore!
But I think it will run cuz I have good compression
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I ca'nt sleep anymore, cuz I'm thinking 24/7 about the rear end, to make the MST Bulletproof. Finally I found a shop there I can get a 3/4" live axle for building me a Doc Locker, if I want to go with it.

Tires I had the Idea of going with those ATV V tread Tires, and found some that will fit right on my 8" rim and have the stock size. Or going with AGs?

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I will do mostly trail riding, we do'nt have much Mud here only in Spring a bit.
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Oh yeah, get the ags over the others, I've heard bad things about them.
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Keep in mind that ags are stupidly stiff and arent great for slick stuff.
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@RichieRichOverdrive wrote:
Keep in mind that ags are stupidly stiff and arent great for slick stuff.
Well, the others have like next to no tread from what I've heard.
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Next to no tread yes, but the ATV tires are cheaper and for general trail use they'll be fine
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in the description they said, they have nearly 1/2" tread. Those should'nt blew up my MST (I hope) and they would look similar to the front tires. I think they're the best solution for it, cuz they also do'nt change the stance or anything. IDK if I should buy them, but til now I have'nt found something better

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Well, I decided, those tiny front tires suck for Mudding and Offroading.

I put just for clearance looking the 16" rears from MTD on. And they just barely fit between the tread of the Tire and the footboards on the frame.  
conclusion: I will upgrade to 8" front rims, they already have a grease Zerk and are'nt that expensive, only the colour of them is Ugly. Front tires will be 16" AGs cuz they're pretty cheap and should steer well enough.


And for the Rear I will go with ITP MUD LITES!! They look ossom on a Mower, and I still have the clearance on the frame and fender, so I will use them.


In my Opinion way better than boring Turfs or those small ATV V treads. Thanks guys you all were against them.


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Good tire picks, but try to find front rims that have actual ball bearings in them, even if they are used or upgrade to ball bearings.  Bushings just don't hold up with higher speed.
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@Crazy_Carl wrote:
Good tire picks, but try to find front rims that have actual ball bearings in them, even if they are used or upgrade to ball bearings.  Bushings just don't hold up with higher speed.

Thanks. I will look and if I can find some for cheap I will get them, otherwise the bad bushings
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Because I need to reassembly MTD back again, I pulled the 11HP back outta it and rescued it from Mowing Duty and being stock!

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And on the Dynamark Trip I asked the seller if ha has some other Mower Stuff, and then I scored me few Parts for cheap, and the green Fender there is from a Dynamark, and I will fit it on Mud Murray to get more dirt protection

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the Seat mount I will use too on it
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Nice haul of spare parts. Those wider fenders should cover the tyres better than the old ones. Interested to see how they look on the Murray.
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Good, glad you found some good fenders for it!
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@MatthewD wrote:
Nice haul of spare parts. Those wider fenders should cover the tyres better than the old ones. Interested to see how they look on the Murray.

Yep, 2" more on both sides.

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Good, glad you found some good fenders for it!

And they were mostly for free, cuz I bought so much stuf from the guy that sold me Dynamark i got that and the seat mount for free.
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I fitted the Dynamark fender as a mockup on it and how I will like it.

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the cloth is for mockup where the 22" ITP MUD LITE will be

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and I just threw the Vanguard on it for mockup and if it will clear the hood without butchering it up

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I love how that looks! want to jump on it and turn the key, select the gear, and start romping, but it's a long way til there  Sad

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Like she was meant to be!!! 4X4 Mud-Murray Offroad Mower - Page 2 2731072446 Nice!
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Those fenders look great! Much better cover than the old fenders. Hopefully they clear the Mudlites!
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Like she was meant to be!!! 4X4 Mud-Murray Offroad Mower - Page 2 2731072446 Nice!

Not really, there is a slight groove of 1/2" around the battery area, and I have a 1" gap between the tunnel and the Fender. the most stuff will be fixed. IDK if I can fix the groove, cuz there will collect dirt and water and mud and it will rust.

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Those fenders look great! Much better cover than the old fenders. Hopefully they clear the Mudlites!

THey will, if not, I hava an angle grinder to trim a tiny bit off the sidewalls, but I want to add some fender flares there. I have right now 3" leftover space til the sidewall begins from the 18" tire. that should be 1" clearance between the fender and the ITPs if i had hacked my poorly math skills
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Looks good, way better than those stock ones.
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Those fenders do have good lines.

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@RichieRichOverdrive wrote:
Looks good, way better than those stock ones.

thanks, think it too

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Those fenders do have good lines.

Yeah, they mostly fit right. If I had forgot to ask the guy if he has more mower stuff, i had'nt this rusty thing for it. Unfortunately I need to make completely new mounts, cuz the old ones are all badly rusted, just bent them outta the way to clear the tunnel.
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Well, I tore Mud Murray apart  Sad  Sad  Sad  
Now it's only a pile of scrap metal  Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad

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I started on looking what materials for reinforcing I have and I found some beautiful flat stock and angle iron. that's nearly the double thickness of the frame and should make it bulletproof!

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The flat stock fits really nicely

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and I saw the Vid of building the ,,Mud King" (Fearlessfronts bud Jakes Rig) he used the same frame and reinforced it with angle iron under the footboards. I will do the same!

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and here is how I want to go with my reinforcing:

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This will make the frame stronger but I think it might still have a little bit of flex which is okay.  Are you thinking about adding any crossmembers.
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@Crazy_Carl wrote:
This will make the frame stronger but I think it might still have a little bit of flex which is okay.  Are you thinking about adding any crossmembers.

I can. If I have some steel over and that will be happen. I want to add a crossmember behind the front axle and maybe some more under the frame in the middle section. Maybe I ca'nt lift it anymore outta a Mud Hole if it'S so heavy scratch
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