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PostSubject: Re: HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]    HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]  - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 25, 2019 10:57 am

It sure did make a difference.
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PostSubject: Re: HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]    HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]  - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 01, 2019 11:32 am

Popped open the 930's and ordered locker parts. Tanking the cases so they will be very clean.
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Yep, the 4 shift keys are a Must have! Got the cases dropped off today, and got a solid rod to mill key-ways in.
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PostSubject: Re: HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]    HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]  - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Mar 30, 2019 1:30 am

Update... Finally! Took a while, but got multiple cases back from the cleaning tank, 2 sets are the 930 cases. Also got 2 sets of Doc lock parts, and about 4 three foot axles, one locker kit and axle for the rear tranny and others for various projects. Also got housing bearings, and for the front trans axle I will be throwing in 2 more spider gears to lock it. If I conclude its too weak, ill find a way to mill some splines in a shaft.

Oh, also got the rack on Beast mowed.

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PostSubject: Re: HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]    HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]  - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Apr 04, 2019 3:45 pm

Small update... Rear peerless 930 got a slight upgrade, Internally increased the gear ratio. This way I can run closer to stock pulleys with lots of speed and not burn up the bearings. I think I am going to go with a 5 inch to 5 inch pulley setup, so it will get moving, but have lots of belt traction. Id guess this mod tripled the output speed. All I did was grind down the smaller gear with the splines and press fit the larger gear onto it. Now that I know it can be done, I will do the same to the front peerless 930. (Doc lock is also in place, milling keyways in the axles is the current task).

Going to drop the cases off to get sandblasted, and then will paint them yellow.

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PostSubject: Re: HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]    HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]  - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Apr 14, 2019 11:48 pm

Just dropped off all the cases for the sandblaster, the finish from the cleaning tank was crappy. Ill paint the 2 930's up yellow, and get new seals and such for them.
Milling the key ways is the biggest setback right now, but it should be done soon.
Also got the PZ30mm carb and its modified intake to fit the 2 cyl. honda welded up, fits nice.

Ill get better close-ups of the gears soon.
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@Offroad MudMowers wrote:
Small update... Rear peerless 930 got a slight upgrade, Internally increased the gear ratio. This way I can run closer to stock pulleys with lots of speed and not burn up the bearings. I think I am going to go with a 5 inch to 5 inch pulley setup, so it will get moving, but have lots of belt traction. Id guess this mod tripled the output speed. All I did was grind down the smaller gear with the splines and press fit the larger gear onto it. Now that I know it can be done, I will do the same to the front peerless 930. (Doc lock is also in place, milling keyways in the axles is the current task).

Going to drop the cases off to get sandblasted, and then will paint them yellow.

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That's pretty dang slick, nice job!
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Heres a clip of the carb setup I just got done.

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Two for one! Sandblasted 930 cases back, look great! Yellow paint will be going on soon.

And secondly, I got my website in the "beginning" stages!
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[adm]Please update your Build. It has been a while since we heard from you! Sad [/adm]

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Apologies for the absents on updates.
Its been a wild ride trying to find the right seals and bearings for these transaxles, but I think I've got everything In-hand to assemble them now!

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Man, that transaxle case looks purdy!  Thanks for the update!

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PostSubject: Re: HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]    HondaX4 By Jason Kahler [2019 Build-Off Entry]  - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 17, 2019 4:46 pm

So, been messing around with belts n such.
First, need to make front and back tranny mounts. For the AWS front tranny, Ill use the stock mounting off of the original tractor/ the back half of frame it was mounted in.
And need about a 2-3 inch lift to allow enough room for belts and pulleys under the frame.
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And heres my almost final setup for belts. Yellow belt comes from the rear engine off a pulley, into a 90 degree pulley setup, and to the rear tranny, with a clutch in there somewhere. Red belt is a straight shot to the front, no clutches, possible belt tensioner.

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Also got the PZ30 mm mounted. Might have to play around with it a little mounting wise to get the exhaust manifold fitting again.
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More work on the HondaX4!
rear tranny mounted, mounted pretty solid too. 3.5 inch blocks from the original mounts, so should sit pretty high.
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Also welded nuts in the blocks to make mounting easier.
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And stole a murray double pulley clutch to use, should work out nicely. Ill have the clutch covered by the rear skid plate.
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Nice work on those transaxle mounts! Should be quite solid!

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Cut the original front axle mounting out to make way for belt and linkage for the front tranny.
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Also wondering if I should mount the front tranny facing the same way the back one does or make it towards the rear tranny to keep it from not sticking out so far. Either way should be pretty much the same for the rear, 3.5 inch blocks.
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Looking cool so far! I had a couple of those honda tractors for awhile and I got one running. I thought they were nice engines. Nice and smooth running. I planned on making one into a boat engine but ended up selling them. Nice to see one being turned into an off road machine. 4wd is probably one of the toughest things to do but it'll be cool when it's done.
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Their are quite the "Top notch" engine.
Shame Honda stopped producing these due to nobody wanting to pay a little bit more for a quality machine.
Over-engineered, which is what I love. Quiet smooth little engines.
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You want to keep the cases mounted the same way as going forward for both transaxle cases. If you turn one or both backwards then they will go backwards while shifter is in forward gears. The transaxles are directional sensitive.
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That's true. At first I thought, he could just swap it to shift the other way. But then once I thought for a second, no wait....doesn't work that way lol.
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Yeah I kinda realized that after looking at how one turns, and opposing its position.

Did get the front tranny mounted. Also ordered most of the drive train stuff, Like pulleys, idlers and heim joints.
Pretty pleased with the front mounts. Will have to also extend off the frame to make mounts for the very front of the front tranny, and will serve as a bumper + skid plate mount.
Axle is in the front (Unpainted) tranny just so I can get the front and rear trannys mounted square.
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Now we're talking! 15 inches from the bottom of the frame rails with 20 inch tires.
Going to probably steal a 3810 hood (square style), because it doesnt have the huge muffler cutout.

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Looking good! The honda hood kinda has a cool look with the grill smashed up for some reason. That's a nice one to hang from the ceiling lol.
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