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PostSubject: Re: Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up   Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 26, 2019 7:06 pm

@Mister_Studabaker wrote:


P.S. @AllisKidD21  The exhaust note is even better at a much lower tone.[/size]

Ooo boy, I can only imagine!

Also I think a walk around video would be great!
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PostSubject: Re: Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up   Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 27, 2019 9:00 am

@Mister_Studabaker Yes! Even though you gave me the personal walk around at CreepyCrawler's I would also like to watch a walk around video.
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PostSubject: Re: Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up   Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Apr 29, 2019 8:58 pm

Thank for the interest will promptly begin designing the spec sheet and walk around feature.  In the mean time a little coverage of the led light install.

Testing the LED's before install
Light OFF

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The Kohler Magnum motors have a solid state voltage regulator which means the original mechanical one can go. Which just so happens to be where the light mount bracket needs to be mounted.  Win Win.

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PostSubject: Re: Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up   Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed May 01, 2019 8:26 am

Did you say that thing is overdriven and what percentage ?
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@Gtx106 Yes biggest gear set they had @ 47% over driven.

Did some timing tuning on Keizer today. Started at 27° total advance did a 0-60' time and turned 3.5-3.7 seconds. Kept cranking the timing at 2° increments and stopped at 32° total advance. Motor is pretty stiff now with each power stroke along with a noticeable hefty note out the pipe, maybe stop before it blows up for now. 0-60' time between 3.2-3.5 seconds. UMMM...that's close to 2 more hp and very noticeable. Maybe at the wheels 29hp by definition.

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PostSubject: Re: Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up   Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2019 1:40 pm

Anything new with ol' Keizer lately?

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PostSubject: Re: Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up   Keizer the Little Cub Cadet 122 is growing up - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon May 20, 2019 9:24 pm

Finished up the lighting wiring and found that everything shakes a lot.  Tried a few ideas with no help this last one aced it.  Ran a sheet metal plate with ribs and pushed a 5/8 radiator hose around it to use as a rubber dampener.  Once everything was set used heavy duty zip strips to secure hose to brace.  Its been a few months and still doing its job well.

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Three weeks ago began playing with timing to see how high the little modified motor could go before spark knock above 2500rpm.  Test drove with timing at 36° total advance to gas station to fill er up about 1/2 mile away.  Motor ran pretty ok a little tight but ok.  On the way home motor was still tight so maybe a bit high on the timing so set the timing back to 2° to 34° and then went out for a some serious testing.  Along the way did a few clutch dumps to show off at the stop lights and another one for the landscapers.  I get laughed at a lot doing this even scolded at by the older folks.  Noticed the motor was getting a little down on power and was 50 yards away from no mans land before the motor seized up.  Um #@@$%....wtf... Ok this happened before.. so relax studabaker let it cool down and restart.  Nope had to spin motor over by hand to free up.  That motor was hot even after a 5 min. wait.  Cranked the key start on and the motor rumbled back to life.  Ok cool, turn this around and head home, wait a second what is that loud noise.  Second thought drive it across the street and park it.  Sat and thought about it for a bit.  You know this motor is pretty nice maybe a walk home and get the truck is a better idea.  Turns out that was a very good idea.  The rod melted to the crank and piston hit the head a few times.  Lesson learned well several.  Switched to dino oil 30 wt a week before to see if oil consumption goes away as suggested in the kohler service manual.  Be wary of over timing as motor takes more energy to compress which creates heat and pressure which takes away from the power stroke equals power loss.  So advance till power loss and back off.  Oh and put the 5w30 Quaker State Ultimate Durability back in as its rated very high on film strength.  The oil consumption vs loss of motor...  yep.  Long story short as this is pretty long.  Put bearing inserts in the rod or not.  After a few days of thinking on this choose no insert and modified the dipper to allow more oil into the oiler hole for lubrication of the crank pin.

The cap on the left is the old one.  Notice to much knife edge this needs to be more like the one on the right.  The flat edge produces a oil tsunami that allows the oil to flow up and into the oiler hole and is very important.


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Ran the rod cap on the left for a few years with Quaker State Ultimate Durability with the famous Kohler knock present with no issues other than trying to figure out what is the Famous Kohler Knock.  Many myths.  Camshaft side play, Governor side play, Crankshaft side play, Piston slap nope.  Its a rod knock.  Reused the same piston a little more broken in mind you on the rebuild.  Only thing changed was the rod and crank which together have like new tolerances.  Kohler knock is gone and boy does this motor rip.  Also did some cam timing adjustment via use of dyno 2000 to find out which setting produces the best overall power.  Turns out retarding the cam a tooth or two did the trick  huh!

There is a little advance retard cam feature that allows you to play.  What was done was to install cam degree in. Input spec's into the dyno. Use the advance or retard the camshaft button.  This took a bit as double check was in full feature. Motor may or may not be making this hp level but am pretty sure its close.

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Huh, pretty interesting about dropping the cam timing a bit!

Good to hear that you were able to fix 'er up after the little meltdown there, haha. Was there any damage to the rod journal on the crank when the rod siezed?

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@AllisKidD21 The crank rod journal was a bit undersized to start with and now it has a nice coat of aluminum around it.  Rod on the other hand needs to be bored out to accept bearing inserts in the same hand grind the crank pin to 1.490.  Think I can do this in house with out a crank grinder.

Picked up a K361 a while back and the crank and rod where in very good shape.  Did a little shave on the rod cap to fit crank pin and installed them in the K341.  Rod is forged alcoa aluminum and should be pretty tough.  Time will tell as this motor will be trounced a lot.

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Went for a ride today and drove right into a Mud Storm.  No warning, no nothing, not even a cloud in sight.  Go figure Michigan weather  Wink

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Awesome action shots!!

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Ah that mud storm musta come from the ground up! That's why there was no warning lol!
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@Murraymountain Its was most certainly ground up. hahaha

Been doing some yard work pulling logs with Keizer.  Wondering how big a log you guys can pull?




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Oh gosh! I'm not gettin' into this. I'll blow my hydro so fast....
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