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PostSubject: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeFri May 17, 2019 5:45 pm

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Here's the Sears Suburban 12 I picked up for free on Wednesday. It is missing the motor, clutch, alternator, gas tank, and gas tank plate. It's also a real rust bucket. I am abandoning the Craftsman GT and will probably return it to stock. I rather build the Sears any day. Here is the plan folks:
25×10-12 Kenda Bearclaws from Craftsman GT
Locked 633a
11-15 hp clone
5in trans pulley
6in engine pulley
New pan seat
Rear utility rack
Maybe different dash
19+in front tires(still undecided)
Dark red and black paint.
I'm sure I'm forgetting some thing but I'll go back to that later. Needs alot of clean up bust should be a great build. I already started to tear down and will have an update tonight.
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PostSubject: Re: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeFri May 17, 2019 9:21 pm

Nice and your ghost grille is in good shape!

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PostSubject: Re: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeFri May 17, 2019 9:30 pm

@MightyRaze wrote:
Nice and your ghost grille is in good shape!

Yes I'm very happy the fiberglass parts are in good shape. I don't love the dash tho. It just doesn't suit the build.
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PostSubject: Re: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeSat May 18, 2019 3:34 pm

I finished getting it all taken apart and cleaning the frame up this morning.

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There is some pitting on the foot boards and on the frame under the dash were there had been a mouse nest. But over all it looks pretty good.

I have no idea what the clutch is supposed to look like and where the pivot point is so if one of you Seras owners could help me out that would be great. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2019 12:15 am

There are a couple ways the clutch could have been.

Mine Is like: Hangs from the battery tray.
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There was another way that bolted down on the frame. I don't have a pic of that.

http://www.stripmine.org/sears/ good source for manuals.

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PostSubject: Re: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2019 12:19 am

Another shot. Under the battery tray behind the engine is how mine was. You can see the linkage connecting to it.

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PostSubject: Re: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2019 12:19 am

@MightyRaze wrote:
There are a couple ways the clutch could have been.

Mine Is like: Hangs from the battery tray.
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There was another way that bolted down on the frame. I don't have a pic of that.

http://www.stripmine.org/sears/ good source for manuals.

Thanks Mighty! I did some research and learned that the clutch bolted to the engine on alot of them and that's probably why mine is missing. I need to know the distance from the clutch pulley to the pivot point to where the linkage pushes it. And about where the pivot point is according to the frame. No big deal tho. I can figure it out. Thanks again.
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PostSubject: Re: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2019 11:28 am

So yesterday I welded the front section of the frame the rest of it. I didn't weld on the side plates just incase I needed to remove them.

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Some of the better welds I've done on stuff this thick. I also broke the pedal off of the clutch rod trying to get it out but I welded it back on at a 90 degree angle because I didn't like how fare it stuck out before. I also welded some triangle gussets on to it. I was gonna grill out the holes for the clutch rod to 3/4 so I could put bushings in but thats sounded like a pain in the rear so I just welded some 5/8 bearings in to keep it stiff.

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PostSubject: Re: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeSun May 19, 2019 12:05 pm

Okay I'm sure some one would have been willing to take some measurements for me but I am a very impatient person so I used a pic from a video by a YouTuber called Suburban Living and I knew the idler pulley was a 3in so I made a conversion to figure out the isze of the clutch.

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I'm just gonna try to make a copy of the original clutch but I still don't totally know where to pivot point should be since the battery tray is missing I have no reference point.
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PostSubject: Re: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeSun Jun 09, 2019 4:23 pm

I've been neglecting this thread alittle because I haven't made any significant progress but I have been tinkering a bit.

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I got the 633a opened up so now I have the one from the Craftsman GT and the one from the Sears open and side by side. I had ordered a third diff gear to moose knuckle lock the GT and I destroyed my cast iron hubs gettin them off so my plan is to put the moose knuckle locked 6 bolt diff carrier with the spined shafts and steel hubs in the original roper 633a. The reason I'm not just putting the hole AYP 633a in the Sears it the mounts are wider and it doesn't fit.
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PostSubject: Re: Sears trail/mudder named Grace   Sears trail/mudder named Grace Icon_minitimeSun Jun 09, 2019 4:27 pm

This is what's left of my cast iron hubs

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I will be posting a short video of some of the main differences between the Roper 633a and the AYP 633a kn my instragram. I will post it here if I can figure out how here is a few pics.

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The 633a is all put back together but this time it has splined shafts, steel hubs, a 6 bolt diff carrier, and a moose knuckle locker!! The AYP 633a will be locked as well and I'm going to get 4 lug hubs for it since it has keyed shafts now and I will save it for another project. But the original 633a is locked and ready to go back in the Sears!
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