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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Sep 30, 2019 10:47 am

I really need to get some traction on this rebuild.  Aye.  Ahh

I have some parts on order so I can make heads or tales what I am doing.  I have a different Murray front spindle on hand that is way shorter than the one on Red now.  Looks to be in better shape too.  I know I have another "matching" around or I did. (hope i still have it) and I will replace the ones on it.  I just don't feel comfortable with the drop down length of the originals.
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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeWed Oct 02, 2019 11:26 am

Still have not found the matching spindle.  Sad 
I could steal the ones off the old 85 Murray in the back, but that may be used another day.  I found another set but they are long too?  Aye!   I'll just stick to what I have and brace them up somehow.

I'll get a pic of the 2 different Murray Spindles later today if I remember.

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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeWed Oct 02, 2019 10:16 pm

OK, went ahead and put my anti-skid pads down on the footboards.

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Also... picture of the different spindles.  The 89 Murray Widebody, one original to the tractor, the 82 Murray GT (I incorrectly labled the pic 85), and a 94 Murray/Noma.  The 89 is really long! The 82 is strong on the spindle but super weak on the spindle arms.  The 94 one is almost perfect except for the fact that the axle part is about 1/4 inch too short to go through the axle, but they are in good shape.  No gouges.

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I should start picking up on this build again soon.

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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeThu Oct 03, 2019 1:27 pm

floor boards look good, Personally Id run the 82 arms and gusset the steering arms, I dont trust any stock spindle I always brace them, so the weaker arms are a moot point to me. JMHO
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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeThu Oct 03, 2019 1:49 pm

Yeah the spindle arms are not an issue.  There is a steel bushing on the 82's that need to come off to check to see if they are long enough.  Only big issue with them is the bottom of the spindle are scored pretty good.  I have one more set of spindles I can check somewhere out in the building still on an axle I kept from an old build.  I'll check those too.  Man I really wanted those 94's to work.  They are a different steel and they are not gouged.  They are much more like a suburban strength metal.  Guess I could always make me an axle.  LOL.  That requires more material.

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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeThu Oct 03, 2019 11:07 pm

Yay, almost like Christmas!

Got my new battery box for the rear.  The old one was cracked up and about to drop through!
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I also got new heavy duty ball bearings for the front wheels.
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A little frustrated with FedEx about this one...
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Got my Rack and Pinion for the front end.  Trying a different brand and configuration.  Much sturdier than the Yerf Dog ones I have been using.
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Looks to be the same 5/8 36 spline.  I need to double check that before I get my extendable universal shaft.  Be so happy to get this thing finally on 4s w/steering again.

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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFri Oct 04, 2019 1:57 pm

Not a 5/8 36 spline. So I will need to do some figuring out. Repainting the springs on the shocks. That green is just horrible.

Now to figure out how to either adapt or start fresh with the steering.

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AYE! That rack may be pretty cheap but the universal and steering shafts for that Rack are super $$$!!!

I will weld a stub on the steering gear and adapt to the 5/8 36 spline system. Seat is back on.

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@MightyRaze wrote:
AYE!  That rack may be pretty cheap but the universal and steering shafts for that Rack are super $$$!!!

I will weld a stub on the steering gear and adapt to the 5/8 36 spline system.  Seat is back on.
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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFri Oct 04, 2019 10:12 pm

I saw those while looking for the rack I finally bought. I stayed away from it because of the angle on the input shaft. Ideally for my setup the input is perpendicular to the rack and in the middle.

Curious to see how you make it work
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Input angle doesn't appear to be too bad. Also, I am actually a bit excited about it as it will work around the input pulley a bit. Biggest issue I see at this time, connecting up the monolink to the axle as this rack is huge!

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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSat Oct 05, 2019 9:22 pm

Lots of work today.  First time in over a month I had a day dedicated to just build and tinker.


Welded up some angle for the Rack to bolt on.

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Testing fit.  Looks good!

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Test fit on the tractor.

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Monolink welded up.  Ignore the boogers.

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Bottom side paint...

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Top side paint.

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Now I need to create a belly-side mounting point for the monolink.  Good to have some progress today.  Hopefully sometime this week I will get the axle mounted.  I'll need to get the spindles modded up and the Rack modded as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSat Oct 05, 2019 10:38 pm

Nice job on the rack and pinion mount Mighty!

How thick is the wall on the tubing you used for the wishbone? Just wondering how strong it would be on that part between the support tubes and the heim joint. Also it would be beneficial to have the support tubes welded out further on the axle. It's always best to have suspension links mounted as close to the spindle knuckles as possible, to allow for the most support and least amount of stress on the links.

Just my way of thinking though, haha. I'm sure it'll be fine the way you have it. Keep up the good work!

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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSun Oct 06, 2019 12:00 am

Thanks for the Info... I'll try some stress tests and see how it comes out.  I could work up some gussets up front.  Not sure about the section in the back as I have a bend in that section.  I am currently on hold as I didn't think about it earlier, but I am a little concerned that my steering shaft may come into contact with the monolink.  If so, I'll have to chop it back off and try again.

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Bolted the rack up.  While I feel better about not having to tear it apart, the possibility is still there.  I think it is just right.

Did some checking about those points of interest @AllisKidD21.  The support braces are only about 4 inches from the end near the spindles.  I think that will be OK.  I did some twisting checks with the heim end.  I could not get it to twist, but I will look into that a little more.  I think it merits a second look.  I think I can put in a brace from the side brace to about where the bend is.  The bend is the key to making the steering work.

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Video update on Red!


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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeTue Oct 08, 2019 10:32 am

How much was that battery box?
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Found it on ebay $20.

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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeWed Oct 09, 2019 5:30 am

Looking great. Coming together well.
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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeWed Oct 09, 2019 11:10 am

@AllisKidD21 wrote:
Nice job on the rack and pinion mount Mighty!

How thick is the wall on the tubing you used for the wishbone? Just wondering how strong it would be on that part between the support tubes and the heim joint. Also it would be beneficial to have the support tubes welded out further on the axle. It's always best to have suspension links mounted as close to the spindle knuckles as possible, to allow for the most support and least amount of stress on the links.

Just my way of thinking though, haha. I'm sure it'll be fine the way you have it. Keep up the good work!

Time to revisit one of your concerns @AllisKidD21.  Thank you for pointing it out.

The strength of the section headed to the heim.  Well, that will not be a concern.  I mocked it up last night and the monolink is way too long.  The heim will be located around the bend.  So, about 70% of that part will be chopped off!  I also do not need the bend.

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Woah, lil red has changed a whole lot since i last got on. Looking good mighty! Paint scheme is really interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeWed Oct 09, 2019 6:34 pm

Thanks Rich!

Did a little with Red today.  Got my universal shaft in today.  Looks like it will slip straight onto the end of the stock steering shaft.  That makes things a little easier.  I took the gear off the end and cut a notch around just below the frame mount and reinstalled the snap ring there.  I also ran bolts through the frame brace and used locking washers to connect the bottom a bit more securely than before.

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I also re-threaded the dash plate and ran bolts up there too instead of the self tappers.

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Red is starting to come together.

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I did weld the stub onto the rack for the universal.  I do think it will hit after all.  The more I look at the front monolink the more I do not like it.  I will probably cut it off after next week and redo it.

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I did it this evening.  I chopped it off.  Starting over.  Still need my braces.

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Braces will come in where the X's are on the axle.  Not sure if you can see them that well.

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I can see the X's.

Where'd you get those labels for the dash? I did mine with a paint marker... looks like scribbles LOL.
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Label maker with clear tape.  LOL

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PostSubject: Re: Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0   Mighty's Li'l Red 2.0 - Page 5 Icon_minitimeThu Oct 10, 2019 10:09 am

Haha, you mean like this....

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I was gonna use this but $30 for the tape.... I can do better than that.
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