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PostSubject: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 7:00 pm

I have stock carlisle turf tires on my Wheel Horse and those just aren't going to cut it for the mud. They are 18x8.50x8. There really arent many choices for aggressive tires from what i've seen. Should I look harder? Or should I get some different wheels? The tallest i'd go is 20" by the way. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 7:26 pm

carisle has AG tires (AKA V lugs.... tractor tread) in size 18x9.50x8 for 60 apeice but they last forever unless you cut a hole in them or they rot out... i have a set of 26x12x12 and they haven't lost any tread i did have to put a tube in one because the tire started rotting away from being older than moses... Yes 18x9.50x8.50 will fit on your current rim it would just be a tad bit wider which looks cool to some. The taller you go with agressive tire tread the more likely the transaxle can crack depending on the model so 18s is a safe bet.
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 7:27 pm

Okay, I was just worried about the extra half inch of width on each side, causing some c;earance/rubbage issues. Looks like i'll have to take some measurements to be sure. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 7:34 pm

i put a set of 25 12.5 12 bear claws on my stock tractor, no problems with rubbing but i had to raise the fenders a half inch because they rubbed
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 7:34 pm

They should fit with no problem i've had wider and taller tires on many different tractors, only way i think they would rub is if you were to run them on the front which i don't think is the case.....
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 7:35 pm

@Jordan wrote:
i put a set of 25 12.5 12 bear claws on my stock tractor, no problems with rubbing but i had to raise the fenders a half inch because they rubbed

^ had to do the same when i put 26s on the gilson
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 7:40 pm

Okay thanks. I guess it looks like I'll be saving up for some super lugs. I think those would be just at home in the mud! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 7:42 pm

@RompinRedneck wrote:
Okay thanks. I guess it looks like I'll be saving up for some super lugs. I think those would be just at home in the mud! Razz

oh they will just don't let the clutch out too fast if you have swapped pulleys.... they GRAB and DIG hard!
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 7:44 pm

Both pulleys are stock and I have Hi and Low gearing. I am yet to try her out, but I think she'll do alright. No need for a fast top speed on a mudder anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 9:20 pm

You can also spend $40 on ebay for a tire groover and make your own cheap mud tires.
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 9:22 pm

@dagr8tim wrote:
You can also spend $40 on ebay for a tire groover and make your own cheap mud tires.

I assume you are referring to turf tires. Like remove every other "knob" so there are bigger voids?
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 9:32 pm

@RompinRedneck wrote:
@dagr8tim wrote:
You can also spend $40 on ebay for a tire groover and make your own cheap mud tires.

I assume you are referring to turf tires. Like remove every other "knob" so there are bigger voids?

Yeah

Here are some examples of opening up the lugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzz3r2zZbwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_cQjDSEcb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsF-uHptyq4

Grooving is used on dirt track cars, mud racers, offroad rigs, and anywhere that you want to increase your tire's performance.
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 9:52 pm

Yea that resembles siping more or less, at least in my opinion. I would love to do it because it has the potential to save me money, BUT one of my rear tires has no hope with all the dry rot and leaks. I'd be better off getting those carlisle super lugs imho. Thanks for the idea though!
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 10:00 pm

@RompinRedneck wrote:
Yea that resembles siping more or less, at least in my opinion. I would love to do it because it has the potential to save me money, BUT one of my rear tires has no hope with all the dry rot and leaks. I'd be better off getting those carlisle super lugs imho. Thanks for the idea though!

Siping are smaller cuts to improve traction on wet pavement or ice.
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeWed Jan 18, 2012 11:53 pm

While watching those youtube clips I saw one on the side to a guy who used a chisel(wood?) and a torch to groove his tires. Not as pretty as the real thing, but I'd give it a shot on some mower tires. If I didn't have enough ATV tires that it.
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeThu Jan 19, 2012 8:23 am

@dagr8tim wrote:
@RompinRedneck wrote:
Yea that resembles siping more or less, at least in my opinion. I would love to do it because it has the potential to save me money, BUT one of my rear tires has no hope with all the dry rot and leaks. I'd be better off getting those carlisle super lugs imho. Thanks for the idea though!

Siping are smaller cuts to improve traction on wet pavement or ice.

While that may work on mud tires, I don't really think it would be too effective on turf tires with the intention of mud performance
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeThu Jan 19, 2012 1:04 pm

I used razor blades to cut the tread blocks on a pair of super-turf tires. It was tedious work, trying not to puncture the tire or my fingers.
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeThu Jan 19, 2012 1:13 pm

to correct my mistake in one of my post, 18x9.50x8 will fit your rim and cut turf tires do work but there are certain limits to where they will start to cake with mud... heres a set i cut and ran for awhile Mud tires? 20hassx
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeThu Jan 19, 2012 1:29 pm

@gilsonrumbler wrote:
to correct my mistake in one of my post, 18x9.50x8 will fit your rim and cut turf tires do work but there are certain limits to where they will start to cake with mud... heres a set i cut and ran for awhile Mud tires? 20hassx

Yea they will work, but for what i'm going through they will cake right up and won't clean themselves out.
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeThu Jan 19, 2012 1:39 pm

thats where AG tires come in, i love mine because they dig and push right through anything
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeThu Jan 19, 2012 2:04 pm

@gilsonrumbler wrote:
thats where AG tires come in, i love mine because they dig and push right through anything

Thanks for all the help. And if I came across as being rude, I didnt mean it. cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: Mud tires?   Mud tires? Icon_minitimeThu Jan 19, 2012 2:09 pm

oh no problem and you weren't in anyway rude so its all good
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