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PostSubject: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2010, 12:58 pm

this weekend i was going up my buddies house so we could go on a road trip to our friends house to get a 3 wheeler frame and tires, well my tractor goes about 15 governed and about 20 not governed. so im almost at the end of my road and i leaned forward and pull back on the governor slightly and the throttle when a little bit over the normally rpms and i here a cccrcrcrrrcrcrcrc a loud grinding noise so i hurry up and shut the motor off and i got all pissed thinking i blew out the tranny because last weekend my buddy blew his out. i came to a stop and look at the tranny and nothings wrong. then i realize theirs a huge hole in my casing. i wish it was the tranny
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but luckily i found a guy with some motors and i bought an 11hp off of him for 40$ we got home and got it put in by time it got dark out, wee had to use my carb, aircleaner, starter and throttle body but it started right up after we got it in
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2010, 1:42 pm

Damn, that sux! I did that once, a looooong time ago. After that I stopped messing with the governors. There's safer ways of going faster! But at least you got a new motor! How does it run? did it burn any oil when you fired it up?

Oh yeah, nice engine slug! He looks like he's loving that oil and grease!
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2010, 2:25 pm

you should sell whatever you can salvage then pour some gas and have a bonfire, some fire! clown
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2010, 2:56 pm

i only had it run for a couple minutes so i need to adjust the carb at high throttle but i turned the key once and it fired right up, even though there was a bunch of water in it that i drained out and chainged the oil and yea that's my pet slug his name is oily lol and when i go up my camp this weekend im tearing it down and getting all the good parts out of it
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2010, 4:32 pm

Sucks about the engine. Ive always wandered if a block could be welded easily? JB weld wouldnt hold. But one of my best mates is a blacksmith convieniently Wink

Glad you got a new engine. $40 isnt too bad!
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2010, 6:31 pm

yea it wasnt that bad i needed another motor and i was gonna get one this week for 100 but i found a cheaper guy for motors lol but i still need another motor and im gonna start making videos soon so i can show all you guys mine and my friends beastly machines in the mud
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2010, 8:17 pm

Cant wait for the vids! I can tell you know, they'll probably get pretty popular on youtube.

$40 a motor is great, cheers
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2010, 8:44 pm

thanks, and yea at first the guy accidentaly sold me a 12.5 with a bad rod so we went back and the guy told me to go back and pick out whatever motor and that there were some twins there and i was gonna get a twin for it but none of them had a carb so i just took the 11hp and hopefully it works out good. im gonna go back to the same guy and see if i can get the one craftsman he has out back
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2010, 9:57 pm

well knock on wood, i have never had a rod come free in real life situations, also i am going to leave my 11hp engine govnered cause i don't want to loose the motor, also you have the same exact engine as me. i want a twin, this one guy is selling a 19.5hp opposed twin for 100 bucks, i may consider it. cause its the i/c version too.
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2010, 10:05 pm

well ive had this tractor for awhile now and ive bypassed the governor alot in its time, you can tie a string around the arm and when you need more power pull back on it but only ddo it for a couple seconds, but i personally dont have much luck so im gonna leave mine alone
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 7th 2010, 7:01 am

A twin could have been awesome, Shame they didnt have carbs though. What was your old engine? Im after the governer linkages between the carb and the gov. arm for an 11hp Briggs. With the older style carb. I pulled some of an 8hp but theyre just too short!

Motorhead: Thats an awesome deal on one of those engines. I'd get it while you can!
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 7th 2010, 7:11 am

yeah and its 100 bucks for a complete engine, carb, starter, stator, everything, just bolt n go
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 7th 2010, 7:38 am

i had a 12 horse briggs on it it was i nice motor
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeJune 7th 2010, 6:58 pm

Chunk: You can weld aluminum - has to be CLEAN tho - a freind at my old job welded up my spare deck mandrel housing for the toro - flange had cracked- he sonic cleaned it, heated it up and manged to weld it.

About welding blocks- well if somehow nothing else inside was damaged- just a small hole in the block- possibly. Usually when they go- its fatal tearing a bunch of stuff away inside.

Ive never had a motor let loose - dad did because he messed with the governer.....
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeAugust 23rd 2010, 2:04 pm

The only motors I've ever been able to blow were the old 8HP B&S with no cast iron sleeve, and 1 Tecumseh 12Hp OHV. All my 10, 11, 12, and 12.5's are bulletproof with no governor, as long as the oil is kept full and changed regularly, AND not over-revved with no load. But I've seen countless new I/C gold motors blown while mowing lawns in tractors because of people never checking their oil No Of course if you get your hands on a motor that's already been damaged and remove the governor, there's mot much you can do but blame it on the previous owner lol.
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeAugust 23rd 2010, 5:29 pm

I'd still watch. Espeiaclly with the 12.5's, they have really weak rods. Some people have no problems running wihtout governers. I suppose it jsut depends how high you rev it, and how long for. And as you said, engine maintainance.
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PostSubject: Re: this is not good:(   this is not good:( Icon_minitimeAugust 23rd 2010, 5:46 pm

As Chunk mentioned the 12.5 briggs power builts were crappy motors- casting flaw in the rods - ive gotten 3 tractors with that motor and all were DOA when i drug em home, all with shattered rods. An upgrade is a 14.5OHV briggs rod to replace the crappy stock 12.5 rod.

I have everything from a 5HP briggs to a 20HP onan ( that doesnt run yet- no spark) - in the 16 years ive tinkered on tractors, ive never blown an engine up. Come close when i fired up a 11HP briggs with no oil ( drained it to change the drain tube and forgot) and a few leaked fuel by into the oil - never wasted a motor.

Im also trying an experement- making a fast tractor using the governer, stock motor- my 18.5HP opposed twin took my murray 6 speed into the upper 30mph range ( i couldve gone faster- tractor was too unstable) - i cant see the need to remove a governer , unless youre aiming for insane amounts of speed ( which means a whole ton of cash for special speed parts).

Yepper , owner neglect is the highest reason for motor/tractor failures-

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