All-Terrain Lawn Tractor Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

All-Terrain Lawn Tractor Forum

Like riding lawn tractors through mud, woods, rocks, and snow? Then this is the place for you! Share your ideas, Post your projects and more!
 
PortalHomeSearchRegisterLog inTop Tractor Challenge
Welcome to the All Terrain Lawn Tractor Forum! . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Happy Holidays!

 

 Having trouble starting a V twin!

Go down 
+3
Chopperhed
Doug
Murray modder
7 posters
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 7:20 pm

My trust Twin is finally died, or is just being a little crap on me. I blew a belt x-mas day, and stored it till I got the chance to grab a new one. I started it about a month ago but it was unusasually hard, but it did start. The next time I tried to start it (about a week ago) it wouldnt run. That time, I blew the stator AND melted the negative terminal on my battery somehow. I then pullet it into my main age for some work. I checked the fuepump it works great, so that good. I then check for spark...CHeck. Compression? Still cant turn it over without removing a spark plug (I love twins for that) Good compression, great. Check the other side? Perfect, both cylinder have compression. Clean the carb? CHeck. Any ideas..?
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 7:35 pm

Starter may be bad. And if your stator burned out and you have melting terminals, you have a wiring problem.

Also, how was the oil level? If you run it dry itll seize up aor even throw a rod. Since you have compression you saved yourself from the latter.

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 7:44 pm

Its spinning around quick engough for a spark, but not starting. And it's kinda odd, I never messed with the wires since I killed the belt x-mas...No clue how the wiring would be bad, I plan on re-wirng it soon...Do these thing absolutely NEED a fuse? I think I re-wired it so it ran without it a while back.
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 7:48 pm

I dont think a fuse is unnecessary unless you run accessories.

Im honestly having the same issue with my 12.5 Tecumseh OHV. Have you tried starting fluid? Just spray some down the air intake while cranking it and if it doesnt start then I dunno cause thats where im at.

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 7:51 pm

Ill try it as soon as I get out tomorrrow If I have any out there, Any luck with the tecumseh with it? Last, so I dont really need it?
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 8:01 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
Ill try it as soon as I get out tomorrrow If I have any out there, Any luck with the tecumseh with it? Last, so I dont really need it?

I dunno what is up with mine, it wont run with anything. Its a Tecumseh, so I dont expect much.

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 8:06 pm

I might be able to help there, Is it recoil or electric, if its electric, Get a drill, A socket that fits the flywheel, and a Bolt that socket in place of a rachet....Hook it all together so you dont waste your battery.
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 8:24 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
I might be able to help there, Is it recoil or electric, if its electric, Get a drill, A socket that fits the flywheel, and a Bolt that socket in place of a rachet....Hook it all together so you dont waste your battery.

Ive tried starting it off the Jeep battery while the Jeep was running and still no fire. Dunno whats wrong with it. But forget my issue, gotta figure out yours!

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 9:33 pm

Thanks, the forum guys are more helpful than the technicians I go to if your guys draw a blank...Or...used to. anyways, Have you ever cleaned a V twin's carb?
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 9:39 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
Thanks, the forum guys are more helpful than the technicians I go to if your guys draw a blank...Or...used to. anyways, Have you ever cleaned a V twin's carb?

In the process of cleaning my 14hp Vanguard carb. Gave it up though cause I didnt want the gas smell in my house. Its not too bad.

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 9:43 pm

Is it JUST the one needle valve or is it the tiny holes on top too? I got about a dozen little holes in mine.
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 9:54 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
Is it JUST the one needle valve or is it the tiny holes on top too? I got about a dozen little holes in mine.

Mine has an inlet for fuel and an outlet for overflow. Theres only one needle connected to the float, its the same as any other carb as far as I can tell.

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 9:58 pm

WIsh I could get a Picture of it, but its pretty late here, But THe gas goes in on topm of the carb, and Sits up there and goes through a BUNCH of holes till it gets to the bowl somehow.
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 10:03 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
WIsh I could get a Picture of it, but its pretty late here, But THe gas goes in on topm of the carb, and Sits up there and goes through a BUNCH of holes till it gets to the bowl somehow.

If your looking at it upside down with the float removed there should be 1 extra hole for the overflow.

If youre cleaning it just spray it out with carb cleaner. To clean the jets just take a twisty tie that you get on breadbags and burn all of the paper/ plastic off except where you would hold it, straighten it out and run it through the jets. Then dry it off with clean air.

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 10:06 pm

Before I tke ALL THAT CRAP OFF AGAIN, is there away to tell if this is a carb problem?
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 10:09 pm

If it starts up with starting fluid its probably your carb.

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 10:12 pm

Straight into the cylinder or the carb?...
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 10:25 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
Straight into the cylinder or the carb?...

You can do it straight into the cylinder by taking the plugs out and putting them back in, or if you crank it over and spray some of the starting fluid into the intake (with the air cleaner off) it should fire right up.

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 10:31 pm

Seems alright, would It be a good idea to do em both is it doesnt come right up?
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSat Feb 09, 2013 10:37 pm

What do you mean?

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2013 9:34 am

Nevermind, I had one of those half asleep moments when I wasnt thinking. Ill be sure tocome to you ahd Chopperhead if I get problems with my mowers, you guys seem to be the most active people, god know you guys help me alot.
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2013 7:04 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
Nevermind, I had one of those half asleep moments when I wasnt thinking. Ill be sure tocome to you ahd Chopperhead if I get problems with my mowers, you guys seem to be the most active people, god know you guys help me alot.

We all have those moments, not a problem.

The forum is here to help you. If you have a qestion, just find the right forum to put it in and post it up!

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Murray modder
Screwdriver
Screwdriver
Murray modder


Join date : 2012-11-23
Posts : 356
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Somewher in Va

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2013 7:44 pm

I didnt have any starter fluid in my garage..thought I purchased some last week...Tore my garage apart looking for it. Could I use gas i the cylinder? I've heard of using that method on horizontal engines.
Back to top Go down
Doug
Administrator
Administrator
Doug


Age : 26
Join date : 2012-12-24
Posts : 2954
Forum Rep : 71
Location : Lebanon County, PA

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2013 8:28 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
I didnt have any starter fluid in my garage..thought I purchased some last week...Tore my garage apart looking for it. Could I use gas i the cylinder? I've heard of using that method on horizontal engines.

Go for it. I just suggested starter fluid cause I always have it in my shop. Just put a tiny bit in each cylinder and try it. Might take a few tries. Ive started weedwhackers a few times by doing that.

_______________________________________________
Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page Admin
ATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures

_X_ FORUM ANNOUNCEMENTS _X_


Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@Doug" in your post!

Your ATLTF Staff:
Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875
Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21




Back to top Go down
Chopperhed
Moderator
Moderator
Chopperhed


Age : 55
Join date : 2012-10-14
Posts : 801
Forum Rep : 0
Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Eh!

Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitimeSun Feb 10, 2013 10:09 pm

@Murray modder wrote:
I didnt have any starter fluid in my garage..thought I purchased some last week...Tore my garage apart looking for it. Could I use gas i the cylinder? I've heard of using that method on horizontal engines.
Got any carb cleaner.


Really all you need is a volitile fluid the doesn`t leave a residue.

I`ve seen to many engines damaged by ether.

carb cleaner is a good bet .



Back to top Go down
http://http:\\members.shaw.ca\ducksgarage
Sponsored content





Having trouble starting a V twin! Empty
PostSubject: Re: Having trouble starting a V twin!   Having trouble starting a V twin! Icon_minitime

Back to top Go down
 
Having trouble starting a V twin!
Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
All-Terrain Lawn Tractor Forum :: Technical Forum :: Engine Tech :: Briggs and Stratton-
Jump to: