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PostSubject: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:02 am

if anyone can give me ideas on how to fix this it would be greaty appreciated, if possible anyway i can buid it stronger?

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:21 am

Yes. Get rid of the sad, factory excuse for a rod end, and swap in a Heim Joint (aka Rose Joint, aka Spherical Rod End). It'll cost ya a buck or two, but well worth it.

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:40 am

and where can i get this joint you speak of?
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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:43 am

All over hell's half acre. Good auto parts stores may carry them, specialty fastener stores, countless online retailers. Hit Google running. You outghta be swamped with places. I get mine at Princess Auto but it won't do you any good in the USA. Maybe try Tractor Supply?

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:46 am

and how would it go on exactly, im not really seeing it.
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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:47 am

You replace the rod end with the heim joint, and you take out the ball from the broken end and replace it with a bolt that goes through the heim joint.

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:48 am

Ain't no trick to it. You'd purchase a female (so it has an internally threaded sleeve, not a male thread. Take that silly ball out of the steering arm, and remove what's left of the factory joint from your drag link. Bolt on and go.

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:49 am

what about the rod coming from the steering box? the heim joint wont attach to it right?
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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:50 am

That's your drag link. See my above post. And look here- http://www.wilwood.com/Images/BEARINGS/Bearing_%20Photos-large/Rod_end_female-lg.jpg

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:51 am

an exampe is welll needed here lol! 
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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:51 am

You're typing too fast. I linked an example in my above post.

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 9:59 am

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i understand how the heim joint goes on but i dont understand how it will connect to the rod to the gear box if it falls on top of the joint?
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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:02 am

You lost me on that question. You are very simply replacing that factory joint with an aftermarket one. Screw it right on to your existing drag link, bolt it into your existing steering arm. One off, the other on. Nothing to it, no further analysis required.

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:17 am

okay im still a little lost but ive got the ball joint out and now i have the ole whee the ball joint went, so i need the heim joint replced where the ball joint was? and the tie rod coming from the gear box, im lost on how it sets up?
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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:20 am

So- you'd thread the new heim joint right onto your drag link (the proper term for that rod coming from your steering box) and run a bolt thru the eye of the heim joint into your steering arm (where that ball was). I honestly cannot make it any clearer than that.

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:23 am

okay now i get it, thread it into the drag link! sorry im really new to this with terms and what not, but i missed where you said thread!! i really apperciate it! the heim joint i need needs to be the drag links diameter right?
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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:25 am

Don't worry- everybody's new sometime. Yes- you will have to carefully measure the threaded portion of the drag link. Also measure the diameter of the hole in the steering arm.

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:28 am

Sorry.... late to the party.

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oky so this is where the ball joint went on the drag link, i cant thread it and if i grind it off behind it it will cause a musalignment issue, would i be better off buying a new drag link and starting from there?
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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:32 am

just saw that post sorry
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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:35 am

Wait a sec- you can't unscrew that factory joint from the drag link? What kinda crappy-@ss raw deal cheapo POS is that?

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so will it work the way it was explained in the picture or no?
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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:38 am

If that's the case, that changes things. Can you post a pic of the entire drag link? If you cannot unscrew it, it won't work as planned. Can you weld?

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PostSubject: Re: steering rod to axle help    axle - steering rod to axle help  Icon_minitimeMon Aug 12, 2013 10:39 am

if you mean from the steering box, you can theres a bolt and washer that runs through it to hold it in the steering box
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