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PostSubject: Cant find anything on this old twin??   Cant find anything on this old twin?? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 14, 2013 12:55 am

I got a couple of off brand tractors for free there pretty old. One which is a rally by roper came with a 16 hp briggs. I cant find any thing anywhere on it. Id like to get it running it has no spark for somereason. Its a 1978 or 79.
Model- 401707 type 0103 01 code- 78110812
Anyone have like a manual or something for it online?
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PostSubject: Re: Cant find anything on this old twin??   Cant find anything on this old twin?? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 14, 2013 2:43 am

I cant find much in the way of service manuals but I did find a parts breakdown :

http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=briggs_and_stratton&mn=401707-0510-99&dn=6931008AA

and a wiring diagram :

http://www.tulsaenginewarehouse.com/drawings/allwiring.pdf
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PostSubject: Re: Cant find anything on this old twin??   Cant find anything on this old twin?? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 14, 2013 7:47 am

A quick glance at the Model Type Code tells me what you probably already know- Briggs 16hp 40CID Oppy Twin. Vertical shaft, splash lube, 12v start and charge. 1st generation, circa 1978. Without a visual inspection, I am going to assume 3-screw fuel pump, adjustable main jet carb, 2-piece manifold, cast-in-flywheel blower fan, breaker points ignition.

Given the age of the engine and the ignition type, the first place I would be inclined to look is the breaker points. Points systems do need periodic maintenance. For this reason, they do tend to be hated by many, but it is also a fact that they deliver a longer duration spark. The Briggs opposed Twin manual should cover your engine and features. Here is a link to your manual online- https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6NaqjIxWV1ybHphbUNTQUNNR2s/edit

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PostSubject: Re: Cant find anything on this old twin??   Cant find anything on this old twin?? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 14, 2013 10:10 am

@Doc Sprocket wrote:
A quick glance at the Model Type Code tells me what you probably already know- Briggs 16hp 40CID Oppy Twin. Vertical shaft, splash lube, 12v start and charge. 1st generation, circa 1978. Without a visual inspection, I am going to assume 3-screw fuel pump, adjustable main jet carb, 2-piece manifold, cast-in-flywheel blower fan, breaker points ignition.

Given the age of the engine and the ignition type, the first place I would be inclined to look is the breaker points. Points systems do need periodic maintenance. For this reason, they do tend to be hated by many, but it is also a fact that they deliver a longer duration spark. The Briggs opposed Twin manual should cover your engine and features. Here is a link to your manual online- https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6NaqjIxWV1ybHphbUNTQUNNR2s/edit

Ask any questions you may have.
Thanks! Does it open for you b/c when i click on the link it goes to a blank screen
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Yes- the link works for me every time. Try giving it a few minutes, it's a fairly large PDF.

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PostSubject: Re: Cant find anything on this old twin??   Cant find anything on this old twin?? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 14, 2013 11:22 am

ok this is all I can tell from one of the codes. 78(year)11(month)08(day)12(factory number)
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PostSubject: Re: Cant find anything on this old twin??   Cant find anything on this old twin?? Icon_minitimeSat Sep 14, 2013 3:34 pm

i have that same engine or so, and where in wisconsin are you?
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PostSubject: Re: Cant find anything on this old twin??   Cant find anything on this old twin?? Icon_minitimeSun Sep 15, 2013 2:19 am

@xxXMowerdudeXxx wrote:
i have that same engine or so, and where in wisconsin are you?
South of milwaukee 20 miles or so.
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So... Are you able to access the manual?

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@Doc Sprocket wrote:
So... Are you able to access the manual?
Yes thank you
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Fantastic. Glad to hear it.

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