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PostSubject: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeSun Feb 03, 2019 1:00 pm

Hello everyone. New to this group but not new to off-road mower mayhem. I started when I was I think 19 I will be 37 this summer. I've been working on my MTD for 2 years now. Improving it as I go. I am in the middle of a drive train swap and soon a carburetor swap to a mikuni typeNorthern Ohio mud mower Kimg0010
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeSun Feb 03, 2019 3:59 pm

Welcome to the forum! Neat looking tractor you have there, is that a hood off a newer Troy-Bilt? Feel free to start a thread for it!


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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeSun Feb 03, 2019 5:26 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeSun Feb 03, 2019 5:35 pm

Welcome and nice Rig!

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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeSun Feb 03, 2019 10:33 pm

Love the way that tractor looks, hadn’t even realized it was an older mtd till AK pointed out the newer hood and I looked again and saw it didn’t match the fenders. Just assumed it was a Troy-Bilt mtd
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeMon Feb 04, 2019 10:50 am

That's a sweet looking tractor! Like the newer hood, nobody uses them because they come with FNRs. Glad to see that, always thought they looked sweet.
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeThu Feb 07, 2019 7:55 am

@AllisKidD21 @AllisKidD21 yes that is a newer Troy-bilt style hood sitting on what's left of a box framed MTD chassis. I do need to start a thread on this thing show everyone what it started out as and how I got here.
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeThu Feb 07, 2019 8:13 am

That sounds like a great idea!   LOL

We all love a build thread!

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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeThu Feb 07, 2019 9:22 am

@Double W Cross Ranch can you define what is fnr's?
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeThu Feb 07, 2019 9:48 am

@Mtdmudmower Single speed with reverse MTD rear axle, has a vari-drive instead of a gear shift in the transmission. They're very weak and lots of people hate them.
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeThu Feb 07, 2019 10:10 am

or less detailed...  "F"orward "N"eutral "R"everse.  Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeThu Feb 07, 2019 12:02 pm

So I should share what I've done to that trans. Stock it is not a good candidate for offroad or increasing speed. It was designed for cutting grass and nothing else. For that matter any open diff trans is not ideal for offroad use either. I dumped the vari drive off of it for a straight belt drive with custom pulley ratio. Locked the diff and rebuilt the internals with better bearings and a higher pressure grease to handle the increased load on everything. Had it clocked at 27mph. Ultimately except for a drive belt nothing has broke on it. And mostly that is due to a lack of using the right belt. Really needs a wrapped kevlar corded belt but getting the length right it was cheaper to use cut poly cord belt so I could try the length variations closest to what I calculated.

Last weekend I busted the belt doing donuts in the snow. Still the original belt I went with after some trials. I am dumping off the current drive train for a cvt clutch going through a right angle box then to a chain driven kart axle. Not happy I'm loosing reverse but ultimately I get a better torque curve and better speed range to the wheels than I had previously.
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeThu Feb 07, 2019 3:38 pm

Wow I always wondered how a pulley swapped FNR would do.  Sounds like you found a pretty good pulley ratio for a rally machine and yeah reverse is great to have.

So you're going to bolt a CVT to a vertical shaft motor?  A predator clone could cost less than a good quality RAGB.  The biggest problem I see is guys putting CVTs on engines that have a much higher horsepower than what the CVT is rated for.  This causes the belt to shred and the return of the belt shredding problems.
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeThu Feb 07, 2019 5:57 pm

Centrifugal clutches don't like to be slipped for very long though, so if you weren't going full bore all the time the clutch would not be very happy. A CVT would work much better for general off-roading as it would have a full range of speeds. Biggest thing would be keeping mud and water out if it.

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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeTue Feb 12, 2019 7:49 pm

It's a CVT clutch I got European race mower guys use them.Northern Ohio mud mower Kimg0110
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeWed Feb 13, 2019 3:40 pm

@MightyRaze wrote:
or less detailed...  "F"orward "N"eutral "R"everse.  Smile

LOL I actually never put that together.  I feel so dumb lol   Northern Ohio mud mower 2429134702


Nice CVT!  I like that plan you've got going, why not try to get a right angle box with reverse?  Or a right angle box and a GoPowerSports reverse box?
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PostSubject: Re: Northern Ohio mud mower   Northern Ohio mud mower Icon_minitimeMon Feb 18, 2019 8:10 pm

I have a 90 degree box but it has no forward reverse option. It's rather heavy duty too I want my weak link to be the chain drive not the 90 box. I have kicked around the idea of using a trans type 90 degree in the future though.
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