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PostSubject: Re: “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build   “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 20, 2020 2:35 pm

What’s the biggest pulley I can run on front? Hopefully at least 6. Being that the smallest pulley I could make work on the back was 6, I’m hoping to at least get 1:1 ratio if not higher.
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PostSubject: Re: “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build   “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 20, 2020 5:56 pm

I ran a 6" on mine at one time, so you can at least get that...
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PostSubject: Re: “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build   “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jan 21, 2020 3:56 pm

6" should be no problem. I think creepycrawly runs a 7" or something on the front of his wheel horse. As long as you have some good keepers and a clutch with some decent movement. Should be ok. I personally hate figuring that stuff out, but once you get it figured out it'll be ok.

By the way, nice garage floor. Looks like a formula one shop in there.
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PostSubject: Re: “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build   “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jan 21, 2020 9:09 pm

I run a 7 on the front of my wheel horse and pretty sure a 7 on the front of AMF too, might be and 8 though
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Are those tractors similar frame styles to mine? I don’t know what kinda clearance these stamped frames have up there... I’ll do some measuring when I get a chance.
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PostSubject: Re: “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build   “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 22, 2020 10:31 am

No I don't think they are. The AMF might be similar, but definitely not the Wheel Horse. You might be able to fit a 7" on it. You'll need to remove the tie rod to get it on though... I just barely could get the 6 on without taking the tie rod off.
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PostSubject: Re: “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build   “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 27, 2020 2:58 pm

I ordered bushings and they came in today, they are the wrong size. They just flop around in the hole. Could someone help me find some of these bushings for this tractor? I’m having a tough time finding them.
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PostSubject: Re: “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build   “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Jan 27, 2020 5:16 pm

So I did a real quick skim of your build and I didn't see anything about bushings your trying to replace.
So what bushing are you replacing and do you have any pics to help me out.

If your talking about bronze bushing or plastic bushings I deal with McMaster carr on those.
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Sorry, couldn’t get pics to upload on my last post. They are the bushings that the front spindles go thru. If there is some sort of metal alternative to these, I’d be all for that too. The longer they’ll last, the better. The steering arm has to be welded to the spindle, so I won’t be removing spindles again for a long time once this job is done.

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PostSubject: Re: “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build   “Beast” - Craftsman II Utility/Sleeper Build - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jan 28, 2020 6:10 am

Judging by the last pic they have knobs molded into them so they don't spin in the housing. That will be hard to find in an aftermarket replacement, but to me that's no big deal if there not there. Without knowing your exact sizes it's going to be hard to tell you what ones to get. Most spindles I come across 3/4 dia.  But I've seen 5/8 and 1in too. Judging by the pic too it looks like the bushing wall thickness is 1/16th which would add 1/8in difference between the spindle hole size and the housing hole size but I'd still measure that to be sure.

I'd head over to McMaster carr look for bearing category and there is a thing on the side of the screen if you know your sizes that will show you what all different styles they offer to fit your needs.
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I found them on eBay finally, got them ordered. They’re 3/4 ID 7/8 OD.
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Alright folks, axle is back together and painted. Today I pulled the front pulley and confirmed the output shaft size, about to order a 6” pulley from Phoenix.

All is going well!

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Finally up and running!

Pulley went on without a problem, the belt I have is a little too tight so it’s grabbing regardless of clutch pushed in or not. It also has some weird jerking going on, most noticed in top gear. It feels like the belt is binding on something.

Front axle is way better, handling so much better and just feels a lot more safe and solid.

It definitely runs faster than before, but not terribly fast. I haven’t checked the actual speed yet. Wish I could get a little more speed out of it but this pulley setup seems to be about is large as I can go in front and as small as I can in rear.

Nonetheless, I’m happy to be making progress on it.

Pics don’t want to upload as usual, I’ll get some out when possible.
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Finally getting somewhere with it.

Put on a belt an inch bigger, clutch now works as it should but it was throwing belt off every time I pushed the clutch in. Removed stock belt retainers, bent them over and welded on some extra round stock to them. They worked perfect. But still the belt was being thrown off front pulley, so I made some for up there too. Now works perfect. The belt is a little more slack than I’d like with clutch in but it works fine. I haven’t had it come off once since installation of retainers. I got it up to 13mph on GPS, and probably could’ve gotten more out of it but the brake barely works. I guess that’s next.

Finally getting satisfied with this thing. Thanks for all the help and suggestions thus far!

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Nice! I tried to put belt retainers on my stamped frame, but it was a fail. Just made the belt harder to put back on. Glad to see you got though!
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Yeah, changing belts will definitely suck. I already have to remove clutch idler, unbolt shifter link and remove the shifter support bracket to remove belt, and all of those retainers will definitely have to be loosened/removed as well now. But I consider it worth it, just to have a belt that stays on.
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