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PostSubject: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 2:54 pm

SO, I finally have the itch to tinker on a tractor.  I was hoping to score a good deal on a Sears SS12, but the buyer sold it to someone else after I was talking to him.  Then I got to thinking.  I need another tractor like I need a hole in the head.

I was thinking of maybe trying to make what I have better!

I think it is time to up my welding and redo Li'l Red one more time.  Time to make it tougher and be able to truly tackle the trails of any place.

I think I will see If I can rebuild it from the ground up!

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  • Plans are open, but I think I may take a stab at a custom frame. if it does not cost too much.
  • Put in the 21HP Vtwin
  • Better front suspension.
  • While the tires are good, maybe upgrade them.  Put these on other tractors.

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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 3:09 pm

I’d like to see a stronger red, but I like the overall look it has now
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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 4:59 pm

Yeah, I like the overall look as well.  I will say Metal is $$.  See if I can score some that someone wants to rid.  Maybe.  This isn't going to happen in a month.  I still need to get it to the garage.

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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 6:17 pm

AYE! I left the fuel shutoff in the "on" position on Red.  All the gas is in the engine.  Pulled the dipstick and it was almost half way up the tube.  Also, a flat tire.

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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 7:12 pm

Not sure you can see it, but the oil/gas mixture was up to the green arrow on the stick.

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Been doing some studying and I see a weak point in the frame where the front structure meets the Murray frame. I'll look into fixing that.

Also, here is another pic for fun.

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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 7:32 pm

I haven't broke it down yet, this is an older build pic.

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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2021 9:22 pm

Just drain that oil out and put in yer weed wacker! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 11, 2021 3:15 pm

its a great build, would love to see back even stronger
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@Creepycrawler wrote:
its a great build, would love to see back even stronger

Oh the back is already much stronger than stock. I welded it up solid on the c-channel and removed the self tappers with grade 8 bolts and nuts. I’m trying to not rush into a come as it goes build. Maybe actually plan it some more before starting.

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I have some newer taller and wider tires coming in.
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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2021 1:25 am

Those for the front? I’m thinking about a set of those for the mk1 revival on the front. Similar if not the same as the ones Studebaker runs on keiser
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@CraftsmanQuad19 wrote:
Those for the front? I’m thinking about a set of those for the mk1 revival on the front. Similar if not the same as the ones Studebaker runs on keiser

Yeah for the front.  I think they are the cheaper cousin to what he runs.  His look massive.

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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2021 9:58 am

Sounds like you uabe some big plans for this tractor. I saw a photo awhile back where you have put the 20s off of your Murray GT and it looked tougher. Hope you stick with the rears you have on it now. You'll be pleased with the motor. Whats in it now?
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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2021 11:40 am

The original 17hp briggs opposed that came on the tractor.  I'm toying with the idea of putting the rears on a wider garden tractor tire.  See if I can pull the hubs off an old peerless 2300 sitting in the back of the yard so I can take advantage of the 5 lug wheel. 

While I have that off, I will be looking to see if I can make a minor mod to the drum brake for better grip.  The bolt for the fixed side of the band needs to go up a about one inch.  Should be an easy drill a hole and move it.

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Probably going to try to video blog the updates!


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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. Icon_minitimeMon Jan 18, 2021 9:40 am

Lookie what I got this weekend!

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I love the new front tire choice, it will definitely help out conquering larger obstacles

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Nice 9N! My grandfather had an old Ford 8n, very reliable tractors. You mentioned in your video that the shock tower would have to be moved. Have you considered leaf springs? You wouldn’t have a tower to worry about and there would probably be fewer modifications involved. You have more experience than I do but that’s my 2c
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I haven't actually.  I do have a pair from a previous build.

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Man, that build needed the rack and pinion I have now.  Too bad I scrapped it.

I have a few things ready to start rebuilding this thing.  I think I will start with the rear tire rim swap.  Then pulling the engine.  From there I will need to figure out the direction with the front end.  Same but better or change it completely.  

Didn't know the engine hoist was bent.  I'll fix that down the line. It will be fine for a mower engine.

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That craftsman looks awesome! Do you have a build thread for it?
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@Rustbucket Garage wrote:
That craftsman looks awesome! Do you have a build thread for it?

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Hmm.... hit my first hurdle.  The 21hp v-twin appears to have a faulty crankcase gasket.  I have noticed a few drips here and there.  Well, I finally traced it down to a place where the gasket is hanging out like a tiny bit, but just enough to leak.

So... 

1.) Get the gaskets to fix the 21hp and continue on course.

2) Stick with the 17hp that came with the engine, but try to spruce it up a bit.

I'm kinda leaning towards keeping the oppy.  It's already all set up for it and I would like to tweak on it.  Save on the 21hp, and fix on it at my leisure.

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I would stay with the oppy too. It's the original engine to the tractor. I love telling people who ask if I put  a bigger engine in it that it's still the stock one.
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I'll still be making the front end updates even if I do not change the engine.

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It’s your call, but I would keep the oppy just because they sound cool Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. 2731072446
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