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 Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.

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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2021 6:44 am

A bore guage will let you check the cylinder for out of round and taper, or take a top ring to and use it to check the ring end gap in the top and bottom of ring travel in the cylinder. You should be fine giving it a honing too, the oppys have cast iron cylinder sleeves.

What did you set your valve clearances to?
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Good Idea on using an old ring to check too.  I may try that later.

I set the intake to .004.  One was already there, the other had no gap.  I got it up to .004.  The exhausts were sitting around.005, I bumped them to .008.

Seats an valve mating surfaces looked great!  Didn't feel I needed to lap them.

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Oh okay, your clearances should be alright. A good way to check if a valve is seating is put it in the block, apply good pressure to it with your thumb and try to turn it back and forth. If it turns real easy it's not seating right.

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PostSubject: Re: Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2021 10:25 pm

They are seating really well.  No wiggles.

Drilled out those pockets so oil doesn't sit in there to coagulate. Now the block needs a good cleaning to be sure not to get any shavings in there. 

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Anyone know what this nifty tool is for?  Very Happy

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I'll post the answer tomorrow if no one gets it! 


Waiting for some parts to come in at this point.

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i don't remember what it was for but i do remember my grandpa had one like it in his tool box when i was a teen
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Since no takers...

It's a piston groove cleaner/cutter.   Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. - Page 5 102878487

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Well I guess I learned something today! Never knew they had those. Cool!
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Boy that's pretty neat, I don't think I've seen one of those before either. Another good way to do it is snap one of the old rings in half and use the sharp broken edge to clean the grooves out.

'Course that only works if you're replacing the rings. lol!

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      - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build
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@AllisKidD21, that was my plan to use an old ring since I got new ones.  My dad whipped that out and said, here you go.  You can keep it.  Worked like a charm and was super easy.

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Hopefully the next update is ripping some dirt.


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@MightyRaze wrote:

I worked over the engine this afternoon.  I found my compression and leak test kits.  I hate to go on, but left side engine I was getting 45psi with leaks.  Right side I got 32psi with major leak.

I knew I should have did a valve job.  I hate pulling valve springs.  I have a briggs tool now, so this should be easier.  I guess I have a new project.  Should I screw up, I do have a couple engines to pull new valves.

Dizzy

Well, compression is 53 both cylinders. Not as much as I hoped, but that could be the compression release. Leak down appeared fine. Too impatient to wait too long.

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Sounds good! Cant beat the sound of an opposed twin! Makes me want to get out the old onan and fire it up.
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Here it is idling. Not a special video, just one to hear it purr.


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Li'l Red sounds great! But that was the best "Alright!" I've ever heard! I swear that was better than Mathew MaConaughey. Like you need to take that sound clip and make a button so that anytime your feeling cool just go over press the "Alright! Cool" button.

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LOL, I go around doing the alright alright alright all the time.  Makes my wife laugh...  BigGrin

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Hmm... not that big an issue, but we will see how things go. Changed the oil after running it about an hour straight.  Oil looked good, no metal in it.  Yesterday I noticed an oil drip under Red.  Appears to be some oil weeping out the bolt holes in the front of the sump.  Not happy about that.  Tomorrow, I may see about dropping the engine pulley to be sure the oil seal isn't part of the issue.  I have about 2-3 of those on hand if needed.  If all of it is coming from the sump bolts, ugh...  I'll just run with it and send it at Haspin.

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I forgot, I did upgrade my seat spring and added more foam to my seat on RED for haspin later this year.

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Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. - Page 5 1f624 I see forumotion snuck in a new emoji button.  Anyways...

I dropped the pulley and the oil seal is dry, no oil from there.  I cleaned it up and placed a paper towel around the sum.  Found that the oil is coming from the front 2 bolts in the front of the sump.  Also noticed the gasket was squeezed out around the front.  Guess I need to pull it back out and replace the sump gasket again.  Dang cheapo chinagasket....

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You can get gasket material online relatively cheap too. I tried some and it can be kind of a pain if you don’t have a really sharp pair of snips but it holds up ok. Used some as a carb gasket and it tore 3 months later when I took it off again but hey pretty sure the factory would have done the same too. Anyway, thought it might work better for what you’re doing because you can get a higher grade compound than factory and it’s cheaper. Hope that helps ya. Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. - Page 5 1f44d
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or just use a non-corrugated box, like a cereal box, i've used them for everything from carbs to automotive water pumps and never had one fail yet
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@Rustbucket Garage wrote:
You can get gasket material online relatively cheap too. I tried some and it can be kind of a pain if you don’t have a really sharp pair of snips but it holds up ok. Used some as a carb gasket and it tore 3 months later when I took it off again but hey pretty sure the factory would have done the same too. Anyway, thought it might work better for what you’re doing because you can get a higher grade compound than factory and it’s cheaper. Hope that helps ya.  Li'l Red 3.0? Growing up to be Red. - Page 5 1f44d

I make alot of gaskets this way, but I'm not sure I'd make a sump gasket just because normally they are a specific thickness to get the right crankshaft end play. But I have used a paper plate as a gasket before and that also worked but not sure I'd do it again.
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Tiny update!


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Got my "BRIGGS" gasket today for the sump.

This is how a flat gasket should be shipped.  No bends to be had here!

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Check the difference in the "Briggs" gasket and the china gasket.

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Briggs gasket fitment!

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China gasket fitment.

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None of the holes quite fit right.  Probably why it leaked.  Briggs one fits well.  I got the sump back on and stripped out 2 of the bolts.  I think I can use a metric bolt in those holes to catch threads and be ok.

I hope to have it back together tomorrow or this week.

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Back together.  Metric M8-1.25 bolt did the trick! Ran it around the block to warm it up and see if it leaks.

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SO in the process of getting Red Haspin ready, I realized.  Red is pissin oil out again.  So post Haspin I will look into engine options.  Try to fix this one a 3rd time or move on to the V-Twin.

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where is the oil leak coming from?
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