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PostSubject: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 18th 2021, 9:52 am

Setting up the next build log Smile
The goal last year was cheap as low $ as possible to hit the 30+ mph needed to ice race. Some expenses are just unavoidable.
speedway gas pedal for example at 55$ is a big chunk of that. but the ability to move it around and place it any place on the foot pan I needed to proved the winning reason.
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Another expense I did wrong was to buy Kold Kutter ($65) ice screws when it should have been the Golds ($75). They are a bit bigger and harder tops. Buy the 2nd race day you could see the difference in mine verse Golds. So the link is for the golds I will run this year.
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Just before the last race last year I made this video covering many of the learning curve things I ran into and changed.


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What's the Goal this year?
Big goal is quit looking like a monster truck compared to everyone else. My rig is so tall I had to hang off the steering wheel to the inside of every turn. This worked but it left me committed to the turn no matter what. Because unless I slowed to the point of getting back sitting up what I grabbed on the way into the turn was it. This cost me several possible passes.

Goal last year was cheap as possible so cut turf tires done with a propane tank and a chisel got it done. Now dont get me wrong this worked out great on the rear tires. With a 3/8 lug and then the ice screw on that. That got plenty of grip or spun until it got grip. The fronts on the other hand. Screws made them better then nothing. But for the most part they packed in the ice and snow after 3 laps and became snow plows in the corner but 4th lap.

MTD modified belt system is complete garbage and brakes are in the way of any easy fix to that. Solution will be a major hands on work in progress.

Once Johns machine is drivable and out of the garage we will blow the Deere apart and start on the rework.

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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 18th 2021, 11:24 am

Good stuff, thanks! Could you post a close pic of the gas pedal so I can see the cable connection? I got a screen grab from the video, but a still would be better. I think I can make one of those.
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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 24th 2021, 5:24 pm

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Today we got it close to down to frame. It's going to take a lot of rework to make it right.
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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 24th 2021, 7:53 pm

It might need a paint job on that fender...
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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 24th 2021, 8:30 pm

TechnoChicken wrote:
It might need a paint job on that fender...

Some say that on a quiet night you can hear the powder coating peeling off these L series tractors. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 24th 2021, 9:55 pm

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It might need a paint job on that fender...

Nope I like forcing people to see its an MTD hunk of junk just like the cub cadets in the same generation.

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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 24th 2021, 10:22 pm

I knew MTD bought Cub Cadet in the 80's but I didn't know they made the low end JD models until just now...that's craziness!


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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 25th 2021, 6:39 am

Someone was looking for a lawn tractor to cut their grass (Shocking!) and they told me they heard JDs were good, I laughed for about 10 minutes and then told them that there was no such thing as a good lawn tractor unless they bought an old one or a subcompact (but never from Deere Smile ). Guy ended up buying a crapman craftsman with a brush paint job, he said "wow it's really shiny" I asked who the heck decided to paint the thing with a brush...
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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 25th 2021, 9:33 am

TechnoChicken wrote:
Someone was looking for a lawn tractor to cut their grass (Shocking!) and they told me they heard JDs were good, I laughed for about 10 minutes and then told them that there was no such thing as a good lawn tractor unless they bought an old one or a subcompact (but never from Deere Smile ). Guy ended up buying a crapman craftsman with a brush paint job, he said "wow it's really shiny" I asked who the heck decided to paint the thing with a brush...

X700s aren’t too bad…but very very very very expensive.

@RCG it might be neat to get rid of the loose paint on that fender and clear coat it like a rat rod. Wink

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RCG it might be neat to get rid of the loose paint on that fender and clear coat it like a rat rod. Wink

That is not a half bad idea. Will see what I can hunt down in the left over paint bin and think on it.

Thank you! Comments like that are why I came back to the forum Smile

The reality is the budget for this build dropped from $500 to $0 do to a life event that will be explained in the next video.

But would not be the first time I turned a junkyard of parts into a competitive rig LOL

Will work on creating a Toro build log Monday or Tuesday cause the questions for that are coming in.

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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 26th 2021, 9:41 pm

So where is the ice racing at?

If I remember correctly I believe the last time I was out on a frozen lake playing was with my nephew and all we had was my yamaha blaster with screws in the tires and we rode around some cattails. Oh it was fun and my nephew kept bugging me about when does he get to ride it, well he got his ride right after I slide it to far sideways and it caught and threw me a good distance and I landed on my knees and elbows.....yep it was his turn, I was done for a while hehehe. Fun times
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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 27th 2021, 8:51 am

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It might need a paint job on that fender...

Nope I like forcing people to see its an MTD hunk of junk just like the cub cadets in the same generation.

Fair enough, gives us some justification to beat the crap out of these things Smile

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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 27th 2021, 12:27 pm

Pre Youtube:
At 6ft 1 most things like this are a tight fit. But we are getting a feel for where we want to be.
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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 27th 2021, 1:06 pm

looks like she's coming along nicely! any ideas for the dash/steering or leave the stock dash and cut it down?
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looks like she's coming along nicely! any ideas for the dash/steering or leave the stock dash and cut it down?

At this point its very up in the air. Goal today is get it hung up and gut the bottom out of it and start fresh. The dash in these is not much better then the MTD Bug Dragster I built and I have always regretted spending so much time on a plastic dash that always feels unsafe.

I never once hit 5th gear last year do to the front turf tires restricting my turning speeds. This year I hope to find a cost effective way around that.

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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 27th 2021, 5:37 pm

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looks like she's coming along nicely! any ideas for the dash/steering or leave the stock dash and cut it down?

At this point its very up in the air. Goal today is get it hung up and gut the bottom out of it and start fresh. The dash in these is not much better then the MTD Bug Dragster I built and I have always regretted spending so much time on a plastic dash that always feels unsafe.

I never once hit 5th gear last year do to the front turf tires restricting my turning speeds. This year I hope to find a cost effective way around that.  

Try some snowblower tires, they are often quite aggressive and can be found for cheap or free.
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Try some snowblower tires, they are often quite aggressive and can be found for cheap or free.

That might be the route I go. The problem with that is the cost of good bushing for them is 1/3 the cost of the tires I want to run.
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PostSubject: Re: John Deere Ice Racer by RCG   John Deere Ice Racer by RCG Icon_minitimeDecember 27th 2021, 6:14 pm

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Try some snowblower tires, they are often quite aggressive and can be found for cheap or free.

I second the motion! Find some that fit the wheels you have, add your studs and you're golden! Or add more to your existing tires, in the photo of you guys racing it looks like the guy ahead of you has studded turfs.

I'd also try to give the tractor a little drop on the front end (to bias the weight) and or add a little weight up front, that should help tremendously and you'd probably be spinning out in no time! Lol. But seriously, you need to find TOO much traction on the front first so you can then dial it back down, it will leave you with adjusmet to play with on different tracks/ice conditions and allow you to really dial it in.


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I got bronze bushings for 13 bucks from Amazon. 4 of them, flanged. I had to run a sanding flap wheel, 1” in diameter inside the snowblower wheel hubs to get them to fit but they should be fine. I’ll add a grease fitting to the hub too.

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I’m also going to use some nice thick aluminum sign material for the dash.

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I see you have sliced the area you mentioned in your video near the steering bushing, left near the brake for the brake to clean up the belt line.


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That plus, you set the tow out rather radically. And, you have a butt operated throttle! Very Happy
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That plus, you set the tow out rather radically. And, you have a butt operated throttle! Very Happy

I have got to be way over tired this cracked me up way to much!
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Laughs are good for us.
I’m looking forward to seeing this develop.
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