All-Terrain Lawn Tractor Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

All-Terrain Lawn Tractor Forum

Like riding lawn tractors through mud, woods, rocks, and snow? Then this is the place for you! Share your ideas, Post your projects and more!
 
PortalHomeSearchRegisterLog inBuild-OffTop Tractor Challenge
Welcome to the All-Terrain Lawn Tractor Forum!
New Awards system! Look for your award at 500, 1000, 2500, 5000, 7500, and 10000 Posts!!!

 

 Snapper project

Go down 
3 posters
AuthorMessage
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeMay 25th 2022, 2:42 pm

I already started this a while back but considering I am going to do some upgrades I might as well bundle it up in here.

This is where it started, a customer of ours decided that they didn't want to invest money in to it after having it in storage for 10 years
Snapper project  Img20230

I asked my boss if I could perhaps take it to fix it back up again and so we got her on the healing bench
Snapper project  Img20228

Colour really came back to life.. bit it was going to need some polish.
Other than that I got her running just enough to get her home.
Carb was absolutely shot after sitting for all those years.
Snapper project  Img20229

Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeMay 25th 2022, 2:48 pm

I got it driving long enough to get it the 5 minutes to my home with a carb that kept flooding and a janky used battery from the scrap pile

Snapper project  Img20233

After her first clean she looked a whole lot better but o just wanted to see how far I could take it
Snapper project  Img20231

Polish polish and more polish
Snapper project  Img20232
Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeMay 25th 2022, 2:55 pm

Chinesium carb was sort of a bust but a decent parts donor for 13 USD

Snapper project  Img20234

First time out for a proper test drive
Snapper project  Img20235

With the engine sorted and not much of a plan I just stuck with atleast fixing the cosmetic issues.
Removed all old stickers and replaced the anti slip tape. I also put it in the centre section as it always kind of bothers me that that gets damaged and I could hide some damage that way as well

Snapper project  Img20236
Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeMay 25th 2022, 3:12 pm

And then I found out about atltf and decided to really turn her in to a proper off-road tractor.

Firstly I planned on fixing the hydrostatic gear and already ordered parts but decided that I would be better off with a peerless transaxle.

So now what?

Well honestly I don't know exactly yet.
I do want to keep it a running machine while I work on it so it's not going to be a full overhaul in one go.
And looking at the fact that she's really looking nice for a 20+ year old machine I want to keep her in that condition.

What I do know is that I want to put go kart spindles and install shocks in the front.
Maybe I want a 4 link anyway but I am not familiar with that and might need some tips and guidance?

Iam still running the crap battery so i want to move a smaller battery to underneath the steering column.
The old one sits very high up and is honestly quite big for my needs.
That being said I am thinking about moving the gas tank to above where the transaxle sits.
Also when it comes to weight I might move the seat down a little more to keep the centre of mass as low as possible.

I definitely need a bumper some day as well as these hoods are very delicate

Other than that I am open for ideas and will keep setting goals for the future

Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeMay 26th 2022, 6:16 am

Snapper project  Img20237

That looks like a nice base for a spindle, guess I'll remove the fork and weld a 1 inch stub on there.

These come with conical bearings and all by the way.
Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeMay 26th 2022, 6:21 am

Snapper project  Img20238

Also found this massive front axle for a country clipper zero turn mower on the shelves.
That's at least a 2x4

Brianator likes this post

Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeMay 28th 2022, 3:57 am

So I guess I am going to need a skid plate.
I was driving around my house when some dried up weeds just wanted to make friends with my belt.

With the battery needing to be replaced still and acting more like a capacitor I quickly got the chewed up belt on and made it home.

Snapper project  Img20243

These buggers will get you, they're hard as a stick untill they hit something and instantly turn into rope.

Snapper project  Img20242

My dog had the best time aswell

MightyRaze and Brianator like this post

Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeMay 29th 2022, 12:55 am

Well.. here goes nothing.
Snapper project  Img20245

Cut most of the fork off just to get a rough idea. There's a lot of cleaning up still to do.
You can sort of start to see the idea here.

Snapper project  Img20244

She's about 5 inches long, I will likely shave another half inch off if possible.

Snapper project  Img20246

MightyRaze and Brianator like this post

Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeMay 30th 2022, 12:22 pm

I sprained my back at work so I didn't have too much energy to deal with it but I managed to mostly clear up one side

I guess that the best way for me is to send the shaft to a machine shop to just clean it up and cut in a notch at 10 degrees aswell
I will be clearing some more metal off before that but at this point iam just not feeling well enough

Snapper project  Img20251

The other reason I will send it off is because the shaft is rather worn out on the top side so I can kill 2 birds in one stone.

Snapper project  Img20250

That being said I did find some undersize bearings so that shouldn't be an issue.
The price for a set of 4 however is more than some people paid on their tractors however Snapper project  1098998679

Snapper project  Screen11
Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeJune 3rd 2022, 7:06 am

Well the spindles were a bust for now.
The spindle shafts did not play well enough and it just seemed like an uphill battle.
New plan is to just dump everything out and to find some hollow shaft as a kingpin and mount the axle shaft on the tube as normal.
Iam having some issues finding a proper 1" pipe or shaft with a .25 inch wall thickness however in my area so I'll just wait a while with that.

Meanwhile i got some more important fish to fry with the gear but I haven't received any parts yet.

I did find this nice chinesium gel battery for about half the price of a lead acid motorcycle battery.
Snapper project  Img20254

Snapper project  Img20256

I would like to cram it in here, just need to figure out a good way without accidentally setting the fuel tank on fire.
This floor pan is an absolute pita to take out so the battery box is the best way to reach the gear in the future
Snapper project  Img20255

Brianator likes this post

Back to top Go down
JittyJat
New Member
New Member
JittyJat

2022 Build-Off Entrant
2022 Build-Off Entrant

Join date : 2022-03-29
Posts : 49
Location : Idaho

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeJune 3rd 2022, 2:33 pm

fbisurveilancevan wrote:
Well the spindles were a bust for now.
The spindle shafts did not play well enough and it just seemed like an uphill battle.
New plan is to just dump everything out and to find some hollow shaft as a kingpin and mount the axle shaft on the tube as normal.
Iam having some issues finding a proper 1" pipe or shaft with a .25 inch wall thickness however in my area so I'll just wait a while with that.

Meanwhile i got some more important fish to fry with the gear but I haven't received any parts yet.

I did find this nice chinesium gel battery for about half the price of a lead acid motorcycle battery.
Snapper project  Img20254

Snapper project  Img20256

I would like to cram it in here, just need to figure out a good way without accidentally setting the fuel tank on fire.
This floor pan is an absolute pita to take out so the battery box is the best way to reach the gear in the future
Snapper project  Img20255
thats a sweet find, and yea anything 1" is a pain in the Snapper project  252588580 to find i have been tring to find some wheels that had a 1" bore with bearings for my rideing cart and i was looking for 2 weeks and was only able to find one company that made that rim with the tire i needed. at the moement they are on order but they where 112$ a peice and they are not large by any means they about the same size as a rideing mower tire but 1/2 the width.
Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeJune 3rd 2022, 11:31 pm

It is literally a Google search problem, since I've been working professionally with heavy machinery for the last decade I know that 1 inch is actually the more common size.

However if you type in Google 1 inch you get anything from 1/8 to 1 1/4.
Amazon is even worse so if I really want to buy from Amazon I'll type in Google shaft 1 Amazon instead and that'll get me a little further.

McMaster car actually has a good selection of tube but they don't ship outside the u.s. and anyone on evilbay asks 30+ usd for shipping
Back to top Go down
Brianator
Veteran Member
Veteran Member
Brianator

2022 Build-Off Entrant
2022 Build-Off Entrant
1000+ Posts
1000+ Posts!

Age : 43
Join date : 2019-07-02
Posts : 1140
Location : Ontario, Canada

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeJune 4th 2022, 10:04 pm

fbisurveilancevan wrote:
It is literally a Google search problem.

I couldn't agree more with that statement! I remember the day back in 2016 when I worked in an auto parts store and all of a sudden Google search sucked @$$ and I was having a hard time finding the info and content I used to find with ease... don't know what they changed but it was something!
Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeJune 5th 2022, 2:02 am

Well I know that I will change the transaxle but I'll have some fun in the meantime.
I had ordered a smaller pulley and a belt already and since my belt is 1 stick away from breaking I'll just do it now.

Hydro gear transaxles are actually really adaptable and perhaps even better than most peerless when it comes to parts IF you have experience with them.
Also very helpful company if you are looking for advice or parts.

Snapper project  Img20259
So this is that access hole I was talking about.
Snapper project  Img20258
Even with the steering wheel and shaft out you would still need to remove the entire console and pedal assembly to even remove the pan so no thanks
Snapper project  Img20257
Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeJune 5th 2022, 3:28 am

A blistering 10 mph, anyway it's an improvement over the standard 4.5 mph
Enough to start wondering what to fix on the steering because she will move all ways except the one I want it to go.

But that's a problem for another day I guess Snapper project  Screen12

MightyRaze likes this post

Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2022, 10:15 am

To steer or not to steer that is the question.
I have tried to see if there was any hope in the factory front axle and steering assembly but I kept running around in circles.


Snapper project  Screen14

The front axle is really flimsy sheet metal and the bushing simply cant do much if the rest is this weak
So I decided that it's best to just forget about everything and start from scratch
Snapper project  Img20260

As plate 0080 can be removed it should be easy enough to change that to 1/4 steel and drill the hole Lower.
On the opposite side a second plate will also be placed so the arm can be mounted lower
In theory this can easily be fabricated outside of the tractor.
Below is a very rough mockup of where I will make cutouts and just to get a feel for it, this axle is a 3x4 with a 30mm kingpin
Everything is straight, no frills and by the rules of keep it simple stupid
Back to top Go down
fbisurveilancevan
New Member
New Member



Age : 36
Join date : 2022-05-20
Posts : 57

Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2022, 3:55 pm

And the sketch for the machine shop so they can crank out the spindles.
He asked 90 USD for the pair which seems reasonable considering I can have these made to exact tolerances

Aand as soon as I posted this i see I actually screwed up since I should only have a 0.01 micrometer clearance which would make it 24.99
So ignore my stupidity
Snapper project  Img20261
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





Snapper project  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Snapper project    Snapper project  Icon_minitime

Back to top Go down
 
Snapper project
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Snapper project
» Snapper 4X4
» Can a Snapper RER be a Mudder?
» Snapper RER "Rally" build
» Doug's RER Snapper - "Zephyr"

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
All-Terrain Lawn Tractor Forum :: Tractor Project Builds :: Off Road & Rally Tractors-
Jump to: