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TheEquineFencer Member
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![chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? February 21st 2013, 11:45 am | |
| I'm thinking of doing a build with a clutch and chain coming off the engine and going straight to the top of the input to the rear end. What's some things I might want to look out for or why should I not do it this way? I'm going to build an entire new frame from new steel. | |
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![chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? February 21st 2013, 1:00 pm | |
| The biggest issue with a centrifugal clutch and chain is that you can't drive at low rpm, and you can't disconnect the driveline at high rpm.
A modified motorcycle clutch takes a lot more work, but you have the advantages of control. | |
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![chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? February 21st 2013, 4:09 pm | |
| I thought about that issue. I figured I'd just shift it to a lower gear and rev th engine more. I can order the clutches with differant lock in speeds too. If I lock at too low of an RPM I'll be below the torque curve and the engine willl stall. I'd thought some about trying a V/S torque convertor set up too. | |
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| a CVS ( snowmobile) system would work well, but you still have the low speed high speed issue. Not to mention they are 3 times the price.
I'm running a Centrifugal clutch and chain / jackshaft on mine, but its not intended to be for crawling. | |
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![chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? February 21st 2013, 4:23 pm | |
| You would be able to crawl if you put like large sprocket on the trans the still have speed in the higher gears | |
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| I may just hunt me down a hydrostatic drive transmission. I know where there's a lawn mower graveyard near me. I junked an old Toro 44 inch with one a long time ago there. He may still have it. That would save a lot of problems. Then all I'd have to do for more speed is install alrger pulley on the engine and a smaller one on the tranny. The flow would be controlled by the pedal position. | |
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| - TheEquineFencer wrote:
- I may just hunt me down a hydrostatic drive transmission. I know where there's a lawn mower graveyard near me. I junked an old Toro 44 inch with one a long time ago there. He may still have it. That would save a lot of problems. Then all I'd have to do for more speed is install alrger pulley on the engine and a smaller one on the tranny. The flow would be controlled by the pedal position.
Can't do that with a hydrostatic, Overspeeding them burns out the pump and release valve. | |
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| That's good to know. That's why I joined this group, good info. I guess I could still use a hydrostatic drive and run taller tires or maybe even add a jackshaft on the output to another axle to gain the ground sppeed on the output side. The more I drive the Cub I've built/building with the hydrostatic drive the more I like it. | |
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| Wouldn't be that hard, different between each transaxle though. Just take max engine speed (3600RPM) Factor in the pulley sizes and bam. | |
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![chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? February 21st 2013, 4:59 pm | |
| If you google the serial number to the hydro you will see some letters mean different gearing, I just got 4 hydro stats then realized that they are geared differently. But two of them the same so I'm good. | |
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| Man, I thought I was really doing something. You're the man! It'd be nice to have a gear box with reverse in it. That thing is a nice homemade 4 wheeler in sheeps clothing! | |
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| - TheEquineFencer wrote:
- Man, I thought I was really doing something. You're the man! It'd be nice to have a gear box with reverse in it. That thing is a nice homemade 4 wheeler in sheeps clothing!
It's really just a collection of leftover parts, and an old tractor I didn't like or need. If I could find a Horizontal FNR gearbox, i'd install it in place of the jackshaft. | |
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![chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? February 21st 2013, 7:58 pm | |
| I bet an old gear box from a servicar would work. I've been looking around for one. I thought about looking for a PTO gear box from a truck transmission that has a Fwd/N/Rev. | |
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![chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: chain with clutch vs/OEM belt? February 21st 2013, 8:13 pm | |
| I still have a fnr box out of a MTD, but its got verticle input. I could put a clutch on my vert shaft BS motor , but not with the swingarm without a major rethink | |
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