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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 29th 2014, 3:34 am

Ok, wait. I just had a better look at the other picture.

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Unbolt the red piece and remove.

Cut along the green lines.

Then flip that piece, following the yellow arrow.

Line it up. Slide it back some, drill some holes and bolt it on.

No welding!

Now fill the bottom of the cavity with a piece of mudflap or something similar, and place a full sized battery in there.
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 30th 2014, 10:14 am

I suppose it doesn't need to be that tall. I will have a better idea of how to finishe it when I decide what weights I want to add. The only items I have of significant mass right now are a couple brake rotors. Arrow 
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 30th 2014, 2:37 pm

If you wanted to fab up something, im sure their is a lot to work with that material.

Maybe this will be some inspiration.


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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 30th 2014, 8:12 pm

Those are some nice front bumpers!

I pulled apart the rest of the LTX1000 frame. I think it can be used to extend my trailer a little.
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Hmm, I wonder if I have another junk transaxle somewhere? I could make it dual axles.....
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 30th 2014, 9:06 pm

whos massey is that? its badass
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 30th 2014, 9:37 pm

Creepycrawler wrote:
whos massey is that? its badass
David Ireland , hes a really nice guy.

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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeAugust 5th 2014, 2:42 pm

After moving a few tractors that are half-torn apart from the back yard to the garage, I realized that I really need a better way to move a machine that isn't a complete tractor. I think my firewood trailer will become a transport trailer.

I still have everything I need to make it, except for a crane. I'm thinking about using this one from Harbor Freight:
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http://www.harborfreight.com/12-ton-capacity-pickup-truck-crane-with-cable-winch-60731-10018.html

Imagine a tractor frame that I can load a partial tractor onto using the crane. I haven't decided if it should have one axle at the rear like a normal trailer, or two axles at each end with one steerable like a farm trailer.
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeAugust 5th 2014, 8:57 pm

I finally decided on a frame to use. Someone had been poppin' wheelies on this one and opened up the spindle holes on the front axle. Perfect donor for a trailer  bounce 
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Just had to remove any plastic bushings, hammer the holes shut as best I could,
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give it a quick 'n' dirty weld,
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and a little paint to keep it from rusting.
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Needed a trailer tongue, so I found this piece of steel, which I think came from a big box store sign?
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Cut it into this,
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and bolted it up. This was very springy. Needs a brace. The receiver came from Harbor Freight; $10  alien 
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Used the other section of the sign piece and welded it (after removing the thick paint  Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 2429134702 )
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This is as far as I got. Still needs a lot more, but at least I can try it out.
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The axle needs to be welded; I don't need a trailer that tilts. The upper section needs a flat sturdy base for the crane to mount to. I may add plywood to the base to give it width. Not sure yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeAugust 5th 2014, 9:57 pm

Finaly someone found a good use for a craftsman.  lol! 
Looks good like the build
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeAugust 7th 2014, 10:21 pm

First test of the trailer: A success!
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This snowblower/mower has a locked up engine and trans. so moving it around, or more appropriately, dragging it around, was tearing up my lawn.
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeAugust 7th 2014, 11:11 pm

Trailer is looking great! Are you going to weld the front axle so the chassis doesnt tip all around? Or did i miss something?

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Finaly someone found a good use for a craftsman.  lol! 
Looks good like the build

Woooooah!

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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeAugust 8th 2014, 10:09 am

Yes I'm going to weld it. Need to strip paint off and maybe even add metal before welding.
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeAugust 24th 2014, 1:49 pm

Did a little work to the Scotts last night. Forgot to take pics  scratch 

I removed the transaxle, replaced the 4" steel pulley with a 6" aluminum pulley. 6" is actually the stock size for the spicer tranny. I wanted to go a little slower as it's more useful that way. Didn't have to change the belt because the belt-tensioning system gave me enough slack for the larger pulley.

Filled the trans with gear oil (didn't remove the grease) to try and tone down the whining noise. Drilled a hole though the neutral switch and put a rubber hose on to vent it.

Just little fixes here and there. This is still my favorite, and most reliable machine. At some point, I want to treat it to some better front tires.
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSeptember 2nd 2014, 7:39 pm

Weight! for the front. Two brake rotors and two flywheels to be exact.
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It really needed it because of the ATV tires. They are very grippy and I was always having to shift my weight forward to turn. Now I can just turn the wheel and she goes! Less unintended wheelies when taking off too. I'll add a bracket to the top for support later, but it stays in place pretty good right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeOctober 29th 2014, 4:15 pm

Changed my muffler today. The "down-in-front" muffler style isn't all that great for off-roading, or in my case, pushing brush back. My buddy's Murray with B&S OHV has a much simpler design that has the muffler right on the exhaust side. I've been patiently waiting for a cheap one and found it on a friend's MTD that had a hole in the block.

Just making sure it fits. You can see the old muffler still attached.
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Took it off, painted and refit.
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It stops just before the tire.
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I did have to modify the hood.
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The sound is the same. Actually, it's a little quieter because after I hit something with the old muffler, it separated it from the header pipe and was louder drunken
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeNovember 29th 2014, 7:38 pm

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Yes I'm going to weld it. Need to strip paint off and maybe even add metal before welding.

Ha, I've changed my mind. I found an easier way to stop the front axle from pivoting. A couple bolts:
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Carefully placed into these holes,
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and Bam! No more pivoting.
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Not sure why it took me that long to do this? I haven't used the trailer in awhile. It got some use today when I had to grab a parts machine and take all four wheels off. Still thinking about the crane hoist attachment, but that's at least $100 away lol!


That's all I got for now. I've been busy with a JD 212 that I've been setting up for plow duty.
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeNovember 29th 2014, 9:21 pm

Crane attachment? Yea know HF has there 2500lb winch on sale for $50 this weekend or something.

Also, what about your 4x4x4x4 thing?

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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 12th 2015, 4:12 pm

It's been cold, and rainy, and did I mention cold? I lose a lot of interest in building when it gets real cold out. But, I found someone giving away gym equipment on CL, which leads me back to working on the trailer. This is where the tower will go:
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Mocking up the metal. These are pieces from a bed rail and a large box store sign.
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Two pieces of angle iron should be strong enough for the base.
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I thought about bolting the large angle piece, but just welded it. I didn't want to remove any structural integrity.
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Here is the part from the gym equipment. Already has a pulley up top.
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It's bolted in three places and I reused the plates that came with it. You can sort-of see the plates. They are acting as washers on both sides.
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I still need to purchase the hand-powered winch from HF. It'll mount where my hand is. A mock-up of the cable location;
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This is how it will sit until I get the winch. I don't think I want to get an electric one. Trying to keep it simple. I may add a ramp to the back to make it easier to load. What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling   Scotts S1742 Trail & Trailer Pulling - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJune 6th 2015, 10:16 pm

I think a little too much time has past since my last post. affraid

But I have been doing a little bit here and playing a bit there. The tractor popped the welded diff while I was doing donuts in the woods. No damage, I'm back to an open diff Suspect

I bought the hand winch a long time ago and it collected dust in the garage. Today, it is mounted and ready to use.
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I did as much welding as possible today. I even beefed up the towing plate on the tractor. Hard to see, but the ball hitch sits a little higher now.
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I made up a better mounting point so the winch handle didn't hit anything when spun.
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So here's a Scotts 20/48 garden tractor. Nice and heavy.
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I really need to add a ramp. The tractor still required lifting, but I didn't have to completely dead-lift it. More like; Turn the winch a little, shove tractor, turn, shove, turn, etc. Didn't even break a sweat.
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