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Chunk Established Member
Join date : 2010-02-10 Posts : 779
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD March 24th 2010, 5:05 pm | |
| Well, i DID use almost a full tube of grease on it...... my 97 mastercut is ready for grease fittings now- thing still howls away....
I need to pick up a couple more tarps for my clunkers - my old tarps are all falling apart. I need to do some work to the temp garage - id like to pick up some pressure treated 4x4's for a base ( to mount the poles to) and maybe get some pressure treated plywood to put on top for a floor - raise it up a bit off the dirt. | |
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| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD March 24th 2010, 5:29 pm | |
| nice mtd, i got a montgomery ward, built by mtd, and it has a stock 14.5 briggs on it, its pretty fast, and does pretty well offroad |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD March 25th 2010, 7:08 am | |
| Yeah i have like 10 MTD's - most mow , a couple are apart, and will made into mods .
This tractor is just something to tinker on and run around with , continuously mod- the others will be more heavily modified .
Ill do a few more changes for now, maybe a future change will be custom lowered spindles, direct steer- i doubt w/o doing a full drivetrain swap itll be much faster anyway.
Driving it reminds me of driving a go kart , now that im somewhat used to it, its pretty cool to run around on with the lower seating position, its not so high centered anymore, can lean into the turns n stuff. | |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD March 28th 2010, 3:41 am | |
| Another update: No pics , but i used the 12HP carb off that 'mysterious clunking motor ' - runs a WHOLE lot better- plus the neat thing is its hand choke right on the carb.
Ive been thinking about modding a carb- like bore out some of the passages n stuff to see if itll get more flow - i have plenty of spare parts to try adding them to it- reason i bring it up is now i can crank the throttle all the way up, but it seems stronger down around the normal range tho. Itll be something to tinker with.
Im also looking into a foot pedal - i took the brake pedal off my wheelhorse chassis - that has 2 holes already cast into it- now im just settling on a somewhat comfortable placement for it on the right side, then ill need to make a bracket setup for it.
Once thats done , ill do the belt retainers and fix the idlers - then should be all good. | |
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Webmaster Webmaster
Age : 14 Join date : 2010-02-09 Points : 5519 Posts : 332 Location : Here!
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD March 29th 2010, 8:49 am | |
| Sounds good! Did you get to figure out you battery situation? I'm still tring to find some space for mine. | |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD March 29th 2010, 8:13 pm | |
| Not yet- im still sorting out the 'details' - heck im still starting it with just the leads on a battery. I spent some time figuring out the gas pedal- its rough right now, but works - also added a different air filter setup ( came off my mod murray- setup didnt work on it) - heres some pics: This is the clutch pedal off my 69 wheelhorse- i cut the steel bar that it was on off that chassis and mounted it to a couple brackets i had laying around - recycling at its best. Heres the air cleaner side- i made this filter setup for the murray- cept it was too tall- i saw it sitting there in the shed and sed "heck thatll work here" - lil better airflow now - used a spring on the carb to make it snap back - i drilled a hole in a bolt n ran the bike brake cable thru it twice n tightened it up. Thats actually a vacuum cleaner filter ( off a red devil) , a 4" PVC cap, and a 4" x 3 reducer pvc coupling. I drilled a large center hole for the carb, and two holes to bolt it on- actually had to flatten the rounded end just a bit to sit flat. I fired it up, ran petty good actually - throttle worked decent ( still needs a lil slack out of the cable ) - so now that thats done, i can set my belt retainer pins and setup the rest of the belt drive. | |
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Age : 14 Join date : 2010-02-09 Points : 5519 Posts : 332 Location : Here!
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD March 30th 2010, 7:57 am | |
| That petal is neat! So is that air filter! Very cool little additions. | |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD March 30th 2010, 3:28 pm | |
| Yeah its a cast piece - since the wheelhorse is disassembled anyway - might as well use the ' leftover' parts for something. It already has a small hole in it- could put a grease fitting in there sometime ( you can see the tiny hole in the pic of it) - another reason i liked it was because of the two holes cast into the top part- one for the cable- one for the spring - i put a bolt in the spring's hole to let it line up a tad better.
I still need to tighten the cable a bit more , has a lil slop in it, also need to put some ties to hold it in place- i thought of removing the stock air cleaner because that carb has a manual choke lever - easier to get to now.
As a return stop to the gas pedal , i just used a bolt- ill need to weld that in because the pedal keeps bending it backwards ( the return spring on the pedal snaps it right back)- i want it to be tilted a lil bit more forward actually.
I figured a dust filter in a vacuum takes quite a bit of dust out, heck should work for my tractor as well .
I was hoping to mount the gas pedal a lil bit further forward, but itd interfere with the oil drain- thats about as forward as it can go- im thinking i might make a frame to mount the seat back just a couple inches more for more legroom - im scrunched up on this thing- LOL! | |
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Chunk Established Member
Age : 32 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6004 Posts : 779 Location : Angus, Scotland
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD March 31st 2010, 12:46 pm | |
| I still really want to put a cool air intake on my mudder. Maybe two filters on a 'T' section pipe? Looks nice though Cant wait to see a video of it cruising! | |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD March 31st 2010, 6:12 pm | |
| Chunk: Sounds like itd work- maybe just use one off to one side or forward- i wasnt thinking when i made this filter for the murray - by the time i bolted the PVC cap on - it already was almost too tall ( i didnt glue the two pieces together - the filter is glued to the adapter tho) to fit under the hood. I figured id save it for something else sometime- like now- LOL!
I couldnt believe it took me nearly 5hrs just to set up that foot pedal n air filter - kept adjusting things..... but now its ready for its belt retainers - ill mark the spots, pull the motor drill n weld the nuts to the chassis, realign the rear idler belt and should be good to go.
Im not sure what ill tinker on next...... | |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 3rd 2010, 7:08 am | |
| I did some tinkering on the mild mod yesterday- i ended up using another shorter bike cable, and i bot a couple small clamps to clean up the setup a little bit more , also re adjusted the pedal setup- made a return stop out of another piece of metal .
I flipped the tractor up on end..... and ill havta make some brackets for the belt retainers- theres like no where to weld/drill holes ( the hole for the motor is like a foot in diamater) - also put my 6" drive pulley on the motor as well- also have to custom make a bracket for the trans retainers - have to do some modding to the back of the chassis for room to work in......minor setbacks. | |
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| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 3rd 2010, 10:27 am | |
| 6 in drive pulley? Thats gonna fly! I love building something then improving on it. Nothing in my garage is ever finished... I donno how many time i've done something, then undid it a little while later. It's a part of life... I need to plan more! | |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 3rd 2010, 1:16 pm | |
| I originally had a 5" drive pulley - i figured better set everything for the way i want it before i have to redo it . I want at least a 8" on the wheelhorse - that thing will seriously haul, also using a large # chain to the rear axle. Other then fixing the idler pulley on the rear belt , thats probably as many mods as the drivetrain will get actually , i dont expect this thing to go super fast . Actually thats the best thing, building it to have something to eventually improve - modify. Before i always had like 3-5 projects at once going - ill keep tinkering on this and maintain my stockers till its done, then ill work on the next mod- Chunk got me to thinking about the ex mod murray - id like to get that back together in a mild state as well - id use that old twin off the kleen kut n try dual carbs on it - only issue i see is hooking the governer up - see how that goes. Im still debating on lowering the front - probably the easiest way would be to raise the front axle a bit and weld it in - id also like to use some different traction front tires- swap a couple from murray rims- those MTD ones are too rounded- ill swap the wheels, then look into raising the front while im still tinkering on it. I was sorta afraid to weld on it the other day, because the dude i bot my 2003 bolens from ( i used the gas tank off it cause the 2001's tank was missing) used RTV to patch a hole in the gas tank , it leaked all over the shed floor and the frame of the tractor- didnt feel like having a fireball on my hands...... ive got sunday/monday off - ill work on it sometime then AND get some pics | |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 4th 2010, 6:27 pm | |
| Happy Easter! I got some shed time today- i made up a couple belt retainers for the motor pulley - made em so i could take em out if needed ( for either a larger pulley or change the belt) - while i had it up on end i decided to drop the front axle as low as possible- since the original axle was in decent shape, i decided to use the crappy front axle from the 97 mastercut- i found some short steel nipples ( yeah yeah joke here) - opened em up with the step drill bit, and welded em to the axle - works great AND it sits just about perfectly level now. I drilled a lower set of holes - i didnt want to weld it , in case i decided to do something later with it.
To access the back area i used a cutting wheel on my grinder to cut the top part of the chassis - so now ill just bolt it down on top of the chassis - easier to get at everything now.
Im ticked i forgot my camera - im thinking another day or so in the shed, this thing will be done. | |
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Chunk Established Member
Age : 32 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6004 Posts : 779 Location : Angus, Scotland
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 5th 2010, 8:22 am | |
| The weird thing was those nipples were in a bunch of tools n stuff i bot for like $5 at a yard sale - i was actually looking for that metal pitman arm off the bolens , when i came across them- idea struck me about using them for bushings - first they looked aluminum. but they welded in great- i still have a couple left if i need em for another MTD.
Its also odd that while working on this mild mod MTD, ive gotten quite a few new ideas and the tractor is getting further and further away from stock , BUT nothing has been changed ( so far) that cant be put back to normal ( if i ever want to). | |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 5th 2010, 6:11 pm | |
| Got some pics- actually its almost all back together, minus the gas tank n oil in the motor and wiring ( battery rack as well). When i put it back together, i cut the chassis over the rear axle and mounted it above to access things easier, i bolted the seat to it, drilled some new holes n worked great. Another plus is i managed to move the seat back about an inch or so- gave me some much needed leg room - plus it really doesnt look that much different, other then the gap in front of the seat. Re did the gas pedal setup and cable- used an oridinary bicycle cable ( they have the 6 piece kit at wally world) and small cable clamps. Raised the front axle flush to the frame bracket - all i did was drill 2 new holes n used the stock bolts. Heres a better view of the axle location..... Removable belt retainers - only way i could see making them easily. I used the old 97 mastercut front axle, since i had to cut the locator rings off to raise it - bushings were all screwed, so used those steel nipples - worked awsome! Steering is like super smooth, and havent even greased it up yet- lil bit more and itll be done so the next project can make its way into the shed. | |
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| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 6th 2010, 6:34 pm | |
| Those belt retainers look just like the ones we built for my friends MTD! Thats funny! Its looking great! when do we get a driving vid? huh? huh? huh? | |
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Chunk Established Member
Age : 32 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6004 Posts : 779 Location : Angus, Scotland
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 6th 2010, 7:22 pm | |
| LOL! Might be either thurs or saturday - ill see what i can get finished before a run.
I forget where i got those pieces of metal from - theyre actually curved near the belt side - i welded a another piece of metal to the bottom so i could bolt it to the frame. i just used some small brackets and bolts on the back pulley. | |
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| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 7th 2010, 10:21 am | |
| coming along nice dude, cant wait to c it finished |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 8th 2010, 8:36 am | |
| As Fearless said- one step forward- two steps back..... i went to put the key switch in to find i didnt have a starter solenoid.... so next came the 'test run" to see how itd work ..... the belt had so much tension i had to have the clutch in to actually start it. Once i got it going, ran pretty good - throttle response crisp , brakes held it in place, popped it in gear and .... took off like a bat outta hell! Man that thing flew.... ran good n strong, hit the corners great, handled awsome , was so fast i couldnt open it up ( before running out of room) - I really wanted to run down the street and open er up . Till the belt broke. Changed the belt- broke again. Usually itd last about 10 mins or so then break- been thru 4 belts already ( old used belts but anyway) . Cant drive it like that .
When it runs in neutral, the things spinning like crazy- wether it eventually slips off a bit or just extreme wear - i dont know.
I might need to ditch the vari drive n just use 2 pulleys - might just go to one long belt n ditch the vari pulley all together. Not really sure yet what ill do yet. Im sorta disapointed actually . | |
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Chunk Established Member
Age : 32 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6004 Posts : 779 Location : Angus, Scotland
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 8th 2010, 8:45 am | |
| That sucks, thats definatly not healthy for it to be munching on belts like that! Maybe the belt is too tight?
Glad you're happy with its performance though... cough*video*cough! | |
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dangeroustoys56 Veteran Member
Age : 53 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6860 Posts : 1726 Location : Florida, USA
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 8th 2010, 8:55 am | |
| Well, i wanted to get the bugs out first..... i dont want an epic fail on YT - y know. I was surprised the last belt went, i hooked a spring to it to adjust - not sure why its doing it. the front belt is fine tho - just the back one is the issue.
I was surprised how fast it actually went n how well it handled- i might need some sort of wall on the right side of the gas pedal- my foot kept slipping off it .... lowering the seat /moving it back made a vast improvement on handling - not tipsy at all - steering is super sharp- so sharp the front tires hit the grille at full turn- LOL! Havta make steering stops now- specially since the axle is lower.
Ill haveta think about how ill fix it. | |
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Chunk Established Member
Age : 32 Join date : 2010-02-10 Points : 6004 Posts : 779 Location : Angus, Scotland
| Subject: Re: Mild Mod MTD April 8th 2010, 9:05 am | |
| Steering stops would be useful! Gotta build myself some too. As for seat lowering, its something I need to do. But I want to keep the suspension, it'll suck off road without those two little springs. Just gotta figure out how to lower it and still let it bounce | |
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