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PostSubject: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeSun Nov 16, 2014 4:31 pm

I rewired my mower the fearless front way but when I push my start button I hear the sillonoid click and nothing happend any ideas on what's wrong
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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeSun Nov 16, 2014 6:30 pm

We're definitely going to need more information in order to be of ANY help to you.

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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeSun Nov 16, 2014 7:05 pm

sounds like you have a bad starter. or bad connection, or even an incorrect connection

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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeSun Nov 16, 2014 9:55 pm

firstly, try putting a screwdriver across the two terminals on the solenoid, if you are still getting the same "click" then it's your battery that is at fault, flat or under powered? or bad earth
if holding the screwdriver across starts the mower, then it's the solenoid at fault, just buy a replacement
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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeSun Nov 16, 2014 10:22 pm

If the solenoid clicks, your wiring is correct uo to that point. Now.... on the solenoid is two large terminals. One should go to battery positive, the other to the starter. Correct? Othe then that, make sure your negative cable from the battery to the frame has a very good connection. If that all checks out, then its likely the solenoid or the starter.

To test the solenoid, short the two big terminals together witha screwdriver. If engine now cranks, solenoid bad. If no change, then its not likely the solenoid.

To test the starter, grab a booster cable, and connect one end to battery positive. Now, with the clamp on the other end of that booster cable, tap the lug on the starter. If engine cranks, starter good.

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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeSun Nov 16, 2014 10:42 pm

@Doc Sprocket wrote:
To test the starter, grab a booster cable, and connect one end to battery positive. Now, with the clamp on the other end of that booster cable, tap the lug on the starter. If engine cranks, starter good.

make sure the starter is either on the engine, or grounded with the other clamp. to ground it, clamp the neg to the battery, and the other end onto the mounting plate of the starter, with the positive, connect to batt positive and tap the lug on the starter, like doc said

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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeMon Nov 17, 2014 5:43 am

ok, I get it, no point in the brit trying to help, my advice just repeated twice and no need for that extra information either Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeMon Nov 17, 2014 6:51 am

@ratcatcher wrote:
ok, I get it, no point in the brit trying to help, my advice just repeated twice and no need for that extra information either Evil or Very Mad

Ahh, don't worry about it. Even with the repetition, it's helpful. SOmetimes folks word things differently, and perhaps something one of us says (even if it's fundamentally the same thing) will get the job done.

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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2014 4:33 pm

I put a screwdriver across the terminals and nothin happend I'm thinking it's the ground I had a booster box hooked to the battery cables but when the screw driver crosses the terminals I don't hear a click
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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2014 5:29 pm

@Madmowers wrote:
I put a screwdriver across the terminals and nothin happend I'm thinking it's the ground I had a booster box hooked to the battery cables but when the screw driver crosses the terminals I don't hear a click

try putting the booster right onto the starter. positive on the lug and the ground onto the frame somewhere. make sure the metal is free of paint and rust. when you cross the terminals, it wont click, because youre bypassing the guts of the solenoid.

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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2014 11:18 pm

It will start if I hook it straight to the starter
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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2014 11:46 pm

@Madmowers wrote:
It will start if I hook it straight to the starter
so I think if I understand correctly... Means you got a bad solenoid
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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeMon Nov 24, 2014 1:23 am

sounds to me like a bad cable or bad connection somewhere. go over everything with a fine toothed comb. i would get a tube of di-electric grease and grease all the major connections.

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PostSubject: Re: need help with wiring   need help with wiring Icon_minitimeMon Nov 24, 2014 10:10 am

it can be one of two things, your battery (not enough juice) or the solenoid,
stop using the booster pack, as this is not helping to identify your problem

1st, try running a wire from your battery straight to the starter, does it then fire up?? if not it would be your battery at fault
2nd, hook your booster up to the solenoid now when you hit the button, does it fire up the mower, if yes, then you have proved your solenoid is ok, but not your battery
if it wont fire up this way, then you know your solenoid is at fault
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