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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 04, 2010 11:31 am

hey dude awesome, wish i had that to spend! you will have to get a video of it running so i can get ideas for it, i want to find parts for it (just the steering part though)

i have stripped the mower down but am going away at the weekend so wont have any updates till then!
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 04, 2010 1:04 pm

@arild365 wrote:
kk guys i found the transmission and were to buy it. i think im gonna go for it and put it on torque. for 250$ i think its a good deal.

http://www.billphil.com/product_info.php?pName=peerless-4-wheel-steer-transaxle-craftsman&cName=transaxles-hyd-mechanical&osCsid=41b4eb75e92b5030e084e77c196e6cff

They had a alot of problems due to poor castings and poor design.
Though , you can take away some good ideas from it .


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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 04, 2010 2:23 pm

My 95 MTD lowes machine has 4 wheel steer- that trans is staying in it tho. Sometime when im bored i might see about making one- that and after i buy some steel...
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 04, 2010 5:56 pm

wow. TORQUE's gonna be 4wd? Theres no chance that'll be getting stuck! Cant wait to see it, but as mentioned, read some reviews and stuff first!
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jun 05, 2010 1:41 am

@Chunk wrote:
wow. TORQUE's gonna be 4wd? Theres no chance that'll be getting stuck! Cant wait to see it, but as mentioned, read some reviews and stuff first!

Yes, i defenetly will, not gonna spend that much for sumthing thats gonna break in half half way down the trail.
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jun 05, 2010 12:09 pm

We raced a tractor with one of these axle setups. It held up good, but it did roll over a few times........turns too sharp and rides up over the track markers Mad Might pull it out and put a normal axle in.
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jun 05, 2010 6:23 pm

Ill agree on that- mine turns like a zero turn. I had it in 6th and was doing donuts around the back yard - almost had it on two wheels.
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jun 06, 2010 9:35 am

You should get 2 of those axles, then you could have 4x4 + 4 wheel steering. It would be epic!
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jun 06, 2010 1:36 pm

Id like to find more 4 wheel steers - craftsman, MTD and noma made em . 4X4 will be hard enough to build- LOL! Right now my list of projects keeps getting longer.... id like to homebuild a RAGB , the 4 wheel steer trans , the manual with a vari drive and a 4x4 tractor..... some year. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jun 06, 2010 2:16 pm

just got back and 4 wheel steering with 4 wheel drive would be 4X4X4 wouldn't it? lol

i need a way to make steering and if it works ill share my idea and then someone else can try it!
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 07, 2010 6:13 pm

i got slightly sidetracked today, cause i have no parts for the lawntractor so i thought why not make a trailer...

its wood im going to say that first, me and my little bro used a piece of plywood and secured the front of the trailer with a 1/2 inch (thickness) steel rod with a threaded end... the axle is the front off of the snapper which is not needed anymore.

the first attempt was a fail! i was going down are road with bro sitting on the back when i heard *SNAP* the plywood i used to secure the axle snapped leaving two wheels rolling away.

the last attempt was same idea, just stronger plywood, works well, although since its a front axle it tends to starfe about Basketball ill take it to my uncles to get it welded, but the other thing was the tyres that were on it, ones flat one hold air, well it fell off affraid the rim lol i need to get a tube, although the inner rings for the Mini-quad might work scratch should b fun!
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 07, 2010 6:31 pm

Yepper- be a 4x4x4. Hardest part would be fabricating a steering setup - i actually have the parts diagrams for my 95 MTD - could post it if anyone wants to see it.
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 08, 2010 2:51 pm

im still stuck on the steering although i have another idea for the mod...

instead of having two transaxles as axles and a center to act as a gearbox, have the center transaxle attached to two gearboxes(chain drive) then to two shafts, again the problem would be steering but it would work! another option incase i cant get two similar axles the same What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jun 23, 2010 3:09 am

i think i am going to go for the two gearboxes idea although there is two problems;

WHERE can i get 3/4inch shafts???!!!??!?!
would i need to put a guard on the front and back to stop it bending?

and two questions;

would I be best buying an old lawn tractor and then using the gearbox and then getting an identical spare?
do you think this is stupid?
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jun 23, 2010 8:06 am

Nope! Alot of the time you can buy whole tractors for less than a single motor or rear end!
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jun 23, 2010 11:09 am

hmm your better off where you are AKA close to a city as the only way i'm going to get one is privately or through green paper which is expensive...
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jun 23, 2010 4:03 pm

Green paper?

Ive got a couple of freebies from friends. Theres tons of mowers dirt cheap in england. I was thinking about one summer, buying a load of nice old vintage/rare machines and then making a trip down with a large flatbed trailer!
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if you go down make sure to tell me! i could collect it from dundee or whatever!
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jun 30, 2010 7:08 am

does anyone know where to get 3/4 inch shafts OR a 1 inch shaft with 3/4 inch ends, i dont wanna end up using two transaxles as chain drive is more reliable AND the wont be any slippage!

also what is the best type of sprockets to get? and the gear ratio! does anyone know where i can find some pillow blocks? cheap and for 3/4 inch shafts! thanks
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i've got two new development's, getting a mount field sometime soon and im getting steel cut for the snapper, going to mount what I can today and the mark on places i need welded! the mini quad still has no tyres! cause there out of stock apparently and i can't find them anywhere else cheaper! but i think i will sell it for £275 which will give me plenty of tinker time cash!
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 06, 2010 8:37 am

Northern tools sells axles and pillow blocks - im not sure about if they ship over seas tho.

Heres the link: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_21285_21285
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 06, 2010 11:40 am

thxs alot man that helped alot!

although i need an axle with a key way, any suggestion?
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PostSubject: Re: Snapper 4X4   Snapper 4X4 - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 06, 2010 5:52 pm

Those ones from northern tools have keyways - i think theyre all 1" with a 3/4 step down for a lock nut- the keyway i beleive is 1/4" - bigger then on a 3/4 axle.
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away to mallorca for 2 weeks! see ya later
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