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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 2nd 2011, 5:32 pm

you might have problems hooking up steering when you do that
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 2nd 2011, 6:19 pm

yea but i would have the same problems with my old idea... ill have to decide nextime im in the shop
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 2nd 2011, 6:42 pm

Ive been lucky with the MTD- since the stock steering is on top of the chassis- i can pretty much go as low as i want with no troubles - actually just lowering the front axle to the top of the frame makes it steer 100% tighter. I might eventually down the line experement with a direct steer setup on top of the chassis.


Putting the front axle that high up will give some steering issues- not to mention be dragging the chassis on the ground - even with tires on it- i think ill be pushing it with my wizard and its lower stance.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 2nd 2011, 10:07 pm

ill have to test things out then... right now the lowest point is 10 inches off the ground so i got plenty of room to work with. lowering to to the fram takes of 2.5 inches so im at 7.5 inches but i want closer to 4 inches
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 8th 2011, 8:35 pm

Alright so today i welded the body back together. i never welded anything so thin so it was a adventure but i got the job done. i didnt get the chance to clean it up but ima grind the welds down to make it look better and u will hardly notic once i repaint it.

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its not a bead i was told by a friend that i would just melt through it if i did a bead so i did a bunch of tack welds until i coverd the whole thing

and if anyone is wondering its a miller welder with gas. my buddy said the gas wasnt workin then but it worked fine so idk if i believe him
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 8th 2011, 10:31 pm

Looks good to me. Looks better than my welding on the extended dash on my murray which is probably about the same thickness. I really don't like welding sheetmetal. I don't even have gas on mine, just fluxcore wire.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2011, 3:33 pm

Tack welding is the only real effective way to weld thin sheetmetal- i dont even think going to a smaller wire it work better.

TIG mightve given a better/smoother weld, but its a pain to operate .
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2011, 9:06 pm

yea i think it came out pretty good for the first time on sheet metal.

next i gotta figure out my front axle. original plan was to do the v shaped axle then i thot of just putting the axle on top of the frame but the only problems with those is the steering linkage would hit the frame so i gotta either find a fix for that or just lower the axle to the frame which would only drop it bout 2.5 inches wich is not nearly what i wanted.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2011, 9:26 pm

try welding it to the front of the frame? just need to make a longer tie rod
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 23rd 2011, 6:11 pm

Alright now i am having trouble with the throttle setup. i got tired of welding today so i started worjin on throttle setup.
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bieng a twin cylinder its got this complicated governor/throttle setup.

one thing i need to get is a throttle return spring cuz the one i have is to stiff.

right now the brass throotle conector on the side of the carb is sittin half open without pullin on the throttle and i cant figure out why. also the cable i bought is the braided type so i cant figure out how to make it stay in the hole where the z bend goes. Any ideas? i thout it was the solid type when i orderd it but it truned out it wasnt.

Also i think i i might go to a handelbar steering setup because when i pull the throotle it hits the wheel before fully opening up the throttle... even tho i really dont want to because i want to maintain the look

Any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 23rd 2011, 11:08 pm

heres what ima try an put on there
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 24th 2011, 3:34 pm

hey i got a pair of bars on my rear engine racer they are pretty cool
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 24th 2011, 6:25 pm

so thy work pretty good? i didn't kno if i would be able to turn enuf with them on.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 24th 2011, 6:29 pm

direct steer it works good
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 25th 2011, 5:44 pm

alright today i went to ace to get some springs for the throttle setup... they seem to work pretty good

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i added 2 springs... one by the cable and one to the left of the bowl
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFebruary 25th 2011, 5:46 pm

one thing i have to figure out is how to get the wire from the cable to stay in the hole. as you can see its the braided wire kind
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeApril 9th 2011, 12:54 pm

Wow i havent updated in forever.

i havent been able to do much cuz one of the other teachers at my school took the welder so ima go take that back next time. i did some major work on the body because it was scrapping thewheels once i lowerd it. ill try an get pics up as soon ass possible.

All i really have left is to put the front axle back on and a few small things here and there. then i will get up a video of it drivin
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeApril 9th 2011, 5:32 pm

I used small u clamps to hold the bicycle shift cable in place , i just looped the cable and tightend the clamp down :

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Its right next to where i put 'cable to throttle' on the right side .

Or on the cheep side i used a nut and bolt with a hole drilled thru the bolt - then lock the nut down to hold the cable.

To effectively use those handlebars- youll need to change the steering - like on a go kart, one center point and two tie rods - lawntractor steering wheels are designed to rotate multiple times - be a lil inconvienient with the handle bars....
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeApril 10th 2011, 9:02 pm

Yea i think i saw ur cable idea on a build yesterday. thats a great idea , i would have never thought of that

and your right bout the handle bars. i didnt even think bout that until i brought them in to the shop
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMay 9th 2011, 5:37 pm

wish i had more time to work on this thing at the shop but it has to be out of there by friday. im pretty much done just gotta weld a few things. i was having clutch issues on the first test run but i think i fixed that. have no more gas to test it but hopefully it will be ready to ride cuz i dont have a welder at the house.

i will get pictures of it up when i get it home
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMay 12th 2011, 10:13 pm

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sorry its dark but heres a pic of the beast.

its definitely not done im still having major clutch problems. if i i start it in gear with the clutch engaged it wont go nowheres but if i disengage the clutch and then try and reengage it it wont engage and it wont stop. i have no clue what the problem is. i even added more bel guides and nothin:(
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMay 13th 2011, 3:33 pm

Probably still too much tension on the belt - my murray was like that - soon as i slapped it in gear, it moved on me - didnt help that the brakes wernt working either.

Id flip it up on end and actually see what it does ( with the tractor off) when the clutch is engaged/disengaged .


My stock 85 craftsman LT12 did the same thing- i put a factory idler on it ( came off my parts LT12) and the dang thing has too much belt tension- it worked perfectly fine before.
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMay 14th 2011, 8:41 pm

k so i havent quite fixed the clutch yet but i got it painted today:)

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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMay 14th 2011, 10:00 pm

man that thing looks sweet
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMay 21st 2011, 9:54 pm

Thanks Dice:)

it could use another coat but i will save that for another day because i am happy with it
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PostSubject: Re: Speed Build   Speed Build - Page 5 Icon_minitimeMay 21st 2011, 9:54 pm

Ok so i got the wiring almost done... i got a button and a toggle switch from lowes only to realize that the button wasnt a momentary push button till i got home.. so when i would press it it would keep tying to start untill i pressed it again. but i got all the wires, the solenoid, and the toggle switch rigged up and ready to go. i will try to go to a hardware store tomorrow cuz i want to finish up the wiring this weekend
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