troy built 4X6 flatbed ratrod

well got this troy built took it down to the frame it was exstended 12in then and another 3 feet on the back for there room for the bed to be put on so far 3 mtds are going into one gunna make a  chassis out of bed frame to sturdy the back and after it all together ima lowering it to about 2 1/2 in off the ground  

Fixed your pics, kinda.

Looks good. Only worries I would have is rear weight with the axle so far up front, it might tip to the rear.

Doug Fackler wrote:

Fixed your pics, kinda.

Looks good. Only worries I would have is rear weight with the axle so far up front, it might tip to the rear.

Actually, moving the weight of the axle/tires/wheels further forward, makes the overall effect less tippy toward the rear.

@Angchor wrote:

Doug Fackler wrote:

Fixed your pics, kinda.

Looks good. Only worries I would have is rear weight with the axle so far up front, it might tip to the rear.

Actually, moving the weight of the axle/tires/wheels further forward, makes the overall effect less tippy toward the rear.

can you elaborate on that? unless im stoopid, you want the rear axle as far back as possible, without compromising the wheelbase, making you bottom out. if you have too much weight behind the rear axle, its going to just do wheelies, especially if there is weight on the flatbed

@willis923 wrote:

@Angchor wrote:

Doug Fackler wrote:

Fixed your pics, kinda.

Looks good. Only worries I would have is rear weight with the axle so far up front, it might tip to the rear.

Actually, moving the weight of the axle/tires/wheels further forward, makes the overall effect less tippy toward the rear.

can you elaborate on that? unless im stoopid, you want the rear axle as far back as possible, without compromising the wheelbase, making you bottom out. if you have too much weight behind the rear axle, its going to just do wheelies, especially if there is weight on the flatbed

i must be stupid to, cause i would thing that a Longer wheelbase would stop the tipping, damn, i reckon i did mine wrong,

the axle gunna b on the back and the weight gunna be more in the bake and ima butting sand in my front tires to help with the waite and the 18hp opposed twin well help with some of the waite and the gas tank is going on the front also cus the engine takes up the whole underneath of the hood

Must be a whole lot of stupid going around, then. Cuz I obviously got some on me, too.

What I saw in the pics was a tractor frame with a long extension on the front.

If you take a tractor, with the rear axle in the normal place... Put an extension on the front, and move the front axle out there... You have more weight out front, and less chance of a wheelie.

Sounds like that is not what is happening in the pics???

it is lengthen just added new metal to make it look stock to put the dash on to put the original steering on in this pic it show that it was lenghthen but I added some metal on it to make it look like its not https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/18/93/27/75/hrthyr11.jpg and one axle is stock place the other is back about 6 inches and all those pipes is gunna be cut in half and not be that long

yes that pic right there

I don't think there was any "stupid" involved at all. I think it is just a matter of we all got different pictures in our heads, when we read the description, and saw the pics. LOL

My own misconception probably comes as a result of not thoroughly reading.

This is a crude drawing of what I pictured in my head:
Add some frame, to the back, to support the second axle. (4x6) Then add some metal to the front, to support putting the ladder out there, which I assumed was to move the axle out there.

This... Would definitely not be more prone to flipping backwards.    

Now that I re-read the title, and look again at the pics, it looks like the 'ladder' is on the back, and that fits with 'flatbed' in the title.

If that ladder is going to hang off the back, as a flatbed, then I agree... you need to put another axle back there, or it will always be on the ground. Not just at wheelie time.

This is what the picture in my head looks more like, now.

Could still be completely wrong...

that ladder is getting cut off it was off my drag mower that why its on there and I understand what yall saying the seat and stuff is moving up and the bed gunna be on top above the axles

well here some of the prosess today of the mower and the video of what yall think and to vote on somethings thanks and I found a old 5 gallon metal barrel and that gunna be the gas tank

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=822299694456420&set=o.383536405048677&type=2&theater theres the link of the video





theres some photos

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=822299694456420 that's the real link sorry

that looks like it will do pretty good. take a look at Richie Thomas's mini Deuce & 1/2 if you run into a problem. maybe he can help you

thanks I well I laid on the back and it didn't pop up and thanks I welll

The only thing i see is the distence between the rear tires may make it hard to turn. But i like it.

I did that for I can add bigger tires if I ever want to and thanks glad you do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCM-jsEBXGw my youtube link and a vid of it so far sorry it suck ima new to this

What happens regarding Ackermans steering angle when you have two rear axles? Which of the rear axle's centrelines do the steering arms point towards?