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PostSubject: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 8th 2015, 9:58 pm

I have been wondering if anyone has done it and if it would work
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2015, 9:30 am

I have not done it, but I've thought about it. From everything I can tell, it will function just fine.

I am assuming you want to use it on a vertical shaft engine, like a lawn tractor. My only concern there, is it hanging low, under the belly of the beast, as it were. CVT's aren't happy when sand or mud get up inside.
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2015, 11:40 am

If you have a skid plate... The worst that can get in is a tiny bit of mud... But mostly sand and water
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2015, 1:52 pm

The problem with skid plates and other shields is that while they can HELP keep crap out, they can also help trap crap in. Food for thought.
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2015, 3:24 pm

Doc Sprocket wrote:
The problem with skid plates and other shields is that while they can HELP keep crap out, they can also help trap crap in. Food for thought.

That's a very valid point, I learned long ago also on waterproofing stuff. If you can't get it 110% waterproof, then don't waterproof it at all. Just let it rince off and air dry again.
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2015, 4:30 pm

Yeah you would have too get it to that 110 percentage
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2015, 6:43 pm

thanks every body and yes Doc i do want to use it on a vertical shaft engine
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2015, 9:15 pm

Also does anyone know of a comet CUT that can withstand up to 20 horsepower
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2015, 9:16 pm

Oops I meant cvt
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2015, 9:51 pm

The Comet 40 is factory rated to 18hp. However, I have NO doubt it will handle 20. I rant the HELL out of a 40 for years. Bulletproof.
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 9th 2015, 9:52 pm

Doc Sprocket wrote:
The Comet 40 is factory rated to 18hp. However, I have NO doubt it will handle 20. I rant the HELL out of a 40 for years. Bulletproof.
but then I have a 6hp stock with a. Really good tune and burn one up in a summer...but that was with a comet clutch
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 10th 2015, 1:37 am

Doc Sprocket wrote:
CVT's aren't happy when sand or mud get up inside.
What about ATVs? I know some newer "automatic" ATVs are just a cvt with mechanical reverse gear, and usually high and low range to choose between. Some guys absolutely bury their ATV in mud.
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 10th 2015, 8:30 am

802 Customs wrote:
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CVT's aren't happy when sand or mud get up inside.
What about ATVs? I know some newer "automatic" ATVs are just a cvt with mechanical reverse gear, and usually high and low range to choose between. Some guys absolutely bury their ATV in mud.

I had an ATV like that. Never fully sunk it. I CAN tell you the CVT was quite well protected though. If it DID get full of schmutz, it WOULD be a problem. Simple mechanics.
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 10th 2015, 9:40 am

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CVT's aren't happy when sand or mud get up inside.
What about ATVs? I know some newer "automatic" ATVs are just a cvt with mechanical reverse gear, and usually high and low range to choose between. Some guys absolutely bury their ATV in mud.
Yea the atvs normally have a cover that goes over it with a gasket, drain plug on bottom and a "snorkel" that runs to the bottom of the airbox for vent and cooling that's on a few I've seen.
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 10th 2015, 9:50 am

That's exactly how mine was laid out. Was a late '90's Kawi Prairie 400 4x4.
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 11th 2015, 4:42 pm

thanks everybody i will probably use a comet 44 magnum setup. no it will be the 40


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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 15th 2015, 12:06 am

another question. what is the difference in the comet 40 and the 44
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 15th 2015, 9:56 am

So far as I recall (been awhile) it's just a matter of pulley diameter, so it affects the final drive ratio a bit. I have a 40 setup, never had a 44.
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 15th 2015, 1:51 pm

thanks Doc
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 15th 2015, 3:14 pm

Hey N1ck, I'm just done reading this and I think a 40 would be best for this since people have used them more. And thanks for being part of the trip, the more the marrier!!! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeFebruary 15th 2015, 5:09 pm

I will probably use the 40 it is cheaper anyway
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways    torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeJanuary 25th 2016, 3:17 pm

I know this probably dumb but, could the cvt be placed above in the tunnel area via short vertical jack shaft? It would keep it protected somewhat .
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeJanuary 25th 2016, 5:23 pm

poseable yes easy no
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeJanuary 25th 2016, 6:14 pm

Had been toying with this idea too, but as Doc says the driver will hang low below the engine, for a 44 its about 5.5 - 6 inches, so a decent bit below your frame rails, then the mechanism of the driven pulley is also in the way as it protrudes the opposite way to the driver. i messed about with a bunch of different designs to accommodate it on a vertical shaft setup, pretty much all would involve a jackshaft setup, it could be done ok especially if you had a tractor with a tunnel type body as Dave says. keeping it accessible for maintenance would be key in executing it well too. did you want to ditch the transaxle and run a 90 degree box and a go kart axle?

in the end i opted out of the idea of using it as i wanted to bring the engine as far back towards the driver as possible, so there was no room for the cvt. whats your application?
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PostSubject: Re: torque converte sideways   torque converte sideways Icon_minitimeJanuary 29th 2016, 3:40 pm

I was thinking of running a cvt to a transaxle for a street build but it got shot down
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