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+11Doc Sprocket tater195 mr.modified Doug MightyRaze AllisKidD21 RichieRichOverdrive TheGreenHornet MatthewD CraftsmanQuad19 ballsdeepmudmowers 15 posters |
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 6:38 pm | |
| - tater195 wrote:
- If you only want a single speed, skip the jackshaft in the middle and go straight to the FNR with the belt
Will eat belts, like a 3" height difference. | |
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ballsdeepmudmowers Member
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 6:45 pm | |
| thank you all im glad i asked before i just did it. i like the trans it has because it seams hefty and the i like the 4 bolt hub that slides onto the axles and the splined pulley it seams tough. i have a 3 1/2 on the front and a 6 in on the back. i would like to change the front again but im afraid the pulley is rust welded on. i would like to put a 3 in on the back and a 5 on the front but i dont know if i would lose to much power. i have thick black swamp mud an would like to trail ride it fast but i dont want to be stranded because of a little hill | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 6:58 pm | |
| Unless that one has something different than what is pictured, it will be fine. It isnt more than 2 belt widths off (1.5" max) over 3 feet. Deck belts can be 3x that much off on the lowest setting in 1/3 the distance and they still work.
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 7:06 pm | |
| If it has the 4 bolt hubs, it came with 12" rear wheels. I m not sure if they beefed them up or just added the hubs. I think those are the 4x4 bolt pattern, so there is a wide range of wheel sizes that will bolt up to that. These are 22x10x8 on cart wheels and get around real good. With the taller sidewall you can run a little less pressure for a smoother ride and better grip on the trail | |
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ballsdeepmudmowers Member
Age : 27 Join date : 2016-12-01 Points : 3064 Posts : 181 Location : Allegan Michigan
| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 7:15 pm | |
| could i gear the tractor faster than a normal pully swap (normal being 5 in drive 4 in trans) by using the jackshaft so the order would be a 5 in drive,a 4 in on the jackshaft which in theroy should turn another 5 in on the jackshaft faster than the 5 in drive then back to a 4 in which again in theory should be turning faster than the 4 in on the jackshaft. therefore doubling the speed of the (normal) pulley swap (my tractor has trail wolves cant remember the size at the moment but they where the taller front tires off an atv i mounded them to the stock 12 in rims they where a little to skinny but thats nothing seating them with gasoline couldent fix.) | |
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tater195 Member
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 7:22 pm | |
| If you go with the jackshaft, you are stuck with 1 high gear, it wont be worth a crap on the trails. | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 7:24 pm | |
| I think the rear pulley has a splined hub. If you want to change sizes you have to cut the hub out and weld it on a smaller one.
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ballsdeepmudmowers Member
Age : 27 Join date : 2016-12-01 Points : 3064 Posts : 181 Location : Allegan Michigan
| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 7:25 pm | |
| - tater195 wrote:
- If you go with the jackshaft, you are stuck with 1 high gear, it wont be worth a crap on the trails.
i do have the hi lo trans | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 7:29 pm | |
| yep, I forgot about that. Seems like the fast side of low is just a little faster that the low side of high, so that might work. I would still go with the variable pulley. You can add a belly pan to the LT to keep the mud and crud off the middle pulley pretty easy.
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CraftsmanQuad19 Veteran Member
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 7:31 pm | |
| ok so this is for the larger GT. The green ranch king? | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 7:32 pm | |
| - CraftsmanQuad19 wrote:
- ok so this is for the larger GT. The green ranch king?
the black one i first posted | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 7:44 pm | |
| Gotcha. Forgot about that one lol. I have an mtd, @TheGreenHornet had one and recently got rid of another, and you have 4 or 5 lol Kinda hard to keep em straight | |
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ballsdeepmudmowers Member
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 14th 2016, 7:48 pm | |
| i know lol the black mtd (Mudster) is mine and the little green thing is mine the rest are my dads my brothers and a friends lol | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 23rd 2016, 10:41 pm | |
| quick questian if i found a way to mount a snomobile clutch, rear pully , and gearbox to a vertical shaft 24hp engine how would that turn out? may be a my next build (silver craftsman) | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 24th 2016, 12:28 am | |
| Well, I don't think you can find a snowmobile CVT belt longer than about 36 inches, which isn't near long enough for a mower, so you would need a jackshaft. But I would be worried about jamming it all up with mud. Not to mention your ground clearance. It's totally possible, but not really worth the effort IMO. Anyone else? | |
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ballsdeepmudmowers Member
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 24th 2016, 10:33 am | |
| - CraftsmanQuad19 wrote:
- Well, I don't think you can find a snowmobile CVT belt longer than about 36 inches, which isn't near long enough for a mower, so you would need a jackshaft. But I would be worried about jamming it all up with mud. Not to mention your ground clearance. It's totally possible, but not really worth the effort IMO. Anyone else?
What about a serpintine belt for a car? could that replace the snomobile belt but still fit the length of the pulley? and could a removable belly pan or skid plate fix the mud issue? not quite sure if the hight could be changed too much by lifting the mower frame. (for anyone else that missed it this is a verticle shaft 24hp) | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 24th 2016, 10:58 am | |
| Nope. A serpentine belt is way too thin. Another thing I just remembered is that cvt won't engage until close to 4000 rpms. That's where it just starts to grab on my sled anyway. A cvt belt is about an inch and a half wide around the outside circumference, and an inch on the inner circumference. And an inch or so thick all the way around. Really heavy duty and pretty expensive. Anywhere from 50 to 90 depending on brand. | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post December 24th 2016, 7:06 pm | |
| - CraftsmanQuad19 wrote:
- Nope. A serpentine belt is way too thin. Another thing I just remembered is that cvt won't engage until close to 4000 rpms. That's where it just starts to grab on my sled anyway. A cvt belt is about an inch and a half wide around the outside circumference, and an inch on the inner circumference. And an inch or so thick all the way around. Really heavy duty and pretty expensive. Anywhere from 50 to 90 depending on brand.
ya my dad works at an atv/bike/sled shop and we just replaced the belt on his 1983 yamaha enticer 340 ($65) he was not home yet so i asked you guys first lol i got the same answer from him to too much work. | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post February 9th 2017, 1:03 am | |
| Made a simple foot throttle on my black mtd.may change a few parts but it works for now | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post February 11th 2017, 4:12 pm | |
| Interesting, I've never seen the hand throttle used for a foot throttle before. Nice work! "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post February 18th 2017, 11:58 pm | |
| - AllisKidD21 wrote:
- Interesting, I've never seen the hand throttle used for a foot throttle before. Nice work!
thank you it was one of those I wonder moments and it worked it's a little weak and tends to bund if pushed to hard but it was my first attempt at any foot throttles | |
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| Subject: Re: My first post February 19th 2017, 11:55 am | |
| Looks cool! Almost like a drag racing mower | |
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