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| Subject: Sleeving axles? Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:49 am | |
| So I "Doc Locker 2.0'ed" my transaxle and i used a solid shaft. So to get the wheels on would I be able to cut the old axles to correct lengh and sleeve them to the new solid axle, which is too long also, its 3/4 and was wondering if it would be safe to sleeve them together with a piece of 3/4 pipe and then weld it all together | |
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Lawren Wimberly Established Member
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:26 am | |
| the axle will be weaker at the weld lines, just so you know.... that said, it wouldn't hurt to sleeve the WHEEL hubs... cut a slit in the sleeve for the drive key. | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:53 pm | |
| So we're just shortening the axles a bit? How much overlap will your sleeve have? I guess you could make it fairly strong if you notched the axle and could hold it straight somehow, weld that together first, then have a tight fitting sleeve and weld that around both sides. Not sure I am understanding what's going on though, why can't you just shorten the axles at the ends? | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:30 pm | |
| Or what i might end up doing is shortening the solid shaft to suit my needs, and weld the threaded portion on to the end and use a nut to hold the wheel to the shaft, would that work? | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:34 pm | |
| Much better to not cut and re-weld the axle where it has weight on it, so yeah, out at the ends would be better. | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:50 pm | |
| But would this work? Or would the axle just spin inside the wheel? | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:38 am | |
| Ok, lets get the elephant out of the room, are we talking about a keyed shaft? If so, just cut the axles to length and cut a small notch around the circumference to put a normal E-clip on. If the shaft is not keyed, just cut the axles to length and take your grinder and *carefully* cut a slot for a key. Then cut your notch for the E-clip | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:05 am | |
| Using a solid non keyed shaft, and if someone could send me a video on how to cut keyways or some tips or tricks that would be aprecheated | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:04 pm | |
| Yeah like CQ said, ya gotta have a key way in the axle shafts otherwise the axle would just spin in the wheel. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:17 pm | |
| Cutting a keyway is simple. You just need a grinder and to mill ut a slot big enough for a key. Or just get a keyed shaft. Welding anything to an axle will weaken the axle. Head Forum Administrator ** Chat Moderator ** Facebook Page AdminATLTF Facebook Page ** Chatbox ** How To Upload Pictures
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:57 pm | |
| Craftsman mudder, on your rims.... are they shaped to fit a double flat with a bolt in the center like an mtd? or do they have an actual key? | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:22 pm | |
| They are normal rims, not like the mtd ones, they just have the 5/16 or whatever size it is, keyway | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:59 pm | |
| If I'm not mistaken, the key way should be 3/16". "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:05 pm | |
| - CRAFTSMAN MUDDER wrote:
- They are normal rims, not like the mtd ones, they just have the 5/16 or whatever size it is, keyway
I'm assuming that the shaft you used for the axle is not keyed.... yup, angle grinder with the appropriate thickness of grind wheel is your best bet | |
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| Subject: Re: Sleeving axles? Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:34 am | |
| ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, it's a solid non keyed shaft. Now I got ya. Cutting a key way with an angle grinder is a pain. Maybe better if you have the perfect size wheel. I tried it once for a pulley key and got it done, was just a bit annoying. If your patient you can do it. | |
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