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 overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]

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PostSubject: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:11 pm

There is my project a Massey Fegurson 85 (lawn tractor) frame only

Like I said before I want to build something never seen before at the cheapest price so there is my parts list

4 tecumseh 10hp snowblower engine (I dont know yet if I gona use all 4 but I hope so)    (under 100$ all together)
2 jeep tj axles (I plan to get them narowed) so yes that thing will run on dana axles        (free from a friend)
1 fwd chrysler 1985 transaxles (as transmission, t-case and get a lower gear ratio) (leftover from an old donor car for another project long time ago)
4 31'' mud tires (one as a sidewall puncture and cant be use on road anymore)            (from my truck when I had to change them)
massey fegurson lawn tractor frame                                             (got for free from a unknown person who gave it for free witout no mecanical parts                      
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and few other parts I found for free while Im offroading (propane cylinder as gas thank, old chevy seat found alone over an old garbage pile few piece of metal and some more






so

step 1  positioning major parts (motors transaxles and axles
step 2 get axles narrow
step 3 instaling transaxles and axles and get them working together
step 4 built engine setup (Im playing with 3 or 4 engine setup)(how I gona get them together?? this my little secret)
step 4 get motors working in conjonction with the transaxles( im thinking on a kevlar multi-belt cluch system)
step 5 body if I have time for it (Im looking on an homemade hood and may be a kind of rollcage like a fullsize forestery tractor MAY BE)

As my understanding that project fit in all rule event if its looks crazy so I hope it will be aprove

and I thinking on an other projet but its lost under the snow till spring so I will see later for this other one
step 5
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:26 am

I love the multi-engine madness! I am collecting engines for a future project, but can't start until I have enough for the project. I don't have enough yet! Can't wait to see this project come together!
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:40 am

I've been wanting to try hooking some engines together for awhile.
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:57 am

I saw some exemple off multi-engine lawn tractor on the web but no so many detail . anyway I have a plan with no matter how many engine I gona put together I just wait to see the tractor will looks like with the power train setup. I just dont want it looking stupid to. Like I said before that will be a never seen before badass mix off a pulling tractor and a rockcrawler in a lawn tractor
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:45 am

Finally someone is doing this! I've always wanted to do this, but with a regular lawn mower transaxle. The idea was to run a belt down from the last engine in the row to below the frame to an RAGB, then a belt and clutch system to a mower gearbox. Interested on how you will connect the two engines without any problems because that was one of the things I was concerned with.
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:51 am

yea the reason off the car tranaxles is to survive of a 3 or more motor jeep axles 31 inch tire in same time . im sure i will just destroy a regular lawn tractor tranaxles but yes we think in same way
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:54 am

Yeah good point actually. A normal 'box would be completely destroyed!
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:45 pm

Sweet, I'm interested for sure to see what way you locate all the engines, the multi engine thing is big in tractor pulling, and they have loads of different ways of doing it. I remember reading about 1 that had 5 v8s and the guy could remove/add v8s as necessary to make his machine legit for competing in different classes!
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:16 pm

HO nice !!!!! I was scare a little to get my project aprove but now its in so now ROCK AND ROLL
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:43 pm

3 to 4 engines, that'll be cool. I'm brain storming that idea on one of my future builds. Be good to see how you do it.
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:52 pm

gonna be cool if you get her to work good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:52 pm

tranny partly in place I jump on axles . hope to have them shortned before the weekend to post some updated pics
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:01 pm

Neat. Can't wait to see more pics of this cheers
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:33 pm

Id find all the gear ratios, tire size, engine RPM, ect to make sure you got the right gearing for it, i imagine it would be tough to lug the tires over, so maybe gear it to 15mph or so. should get a ton of reduction with the car transaxle.

Automatic car transaxle? Are you just going to pull the torque converter off and weld a coupler (or whatever you plan) to the input shaft? How would you think it would shift with the lower max engine rpm.

Sounds super cool man, i hope you finish.

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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:42 am

its a 5 speed manual tranaxles from a mid 80s chrysler I'll gona attach the engine setup to the input shaft and If I need to adjust the speed Ill gone use a pulley or sprocket setup . But remember Im not built it for speed its a rock crawler so I want gear reduction. BTW if I have enough space I will consider some kind low and high pulley ratio between engines and transaxles
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:43 am

its a 5 speed manual tranaxles from a mid 80s chrysler I'll gona attach the engine setup to the input shaft and If I need to adjust the speed Ill gone use a pulley or sprocket setup . But remember Im not built it for speed its a rock crawler so I want gear reduction. BTW if I have enough space I will consider some kind low and high pulley ratio between engines and transaxles
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:09 pm

I'd think you should have plenty of range with a 5 speed from a car. I think they're probably a lot wider spread than lawn tractor transaxles.
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:24 pm

I think so to because on most of the car the last gear is an overdrive and I know its the case on that one. I didnt do any caculation I think I will be go for 60 or 70km\h with a gone low speed ratio on 1 and 2 gear in condition I got enough power to drive all that metal
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:45 pm

some update pics of the front axle built sorry I forgot to take pics of the tranny but Ill gona get some tonight
I have te axle shaft left to so its what Ill gona do in next few days and I will start the rear axle in the same way than the front
I dot know yet about suspention because Im waiting to see how everything fit under the frame

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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:16 pm

the tranny is just temporary in place to positioning all axles direction and possibly suspention components

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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Nice job on the front axle housing. I welded a couple little axles every now and then. I found to keep them straight when welding them, I would clamp them in a piece of angle iron real good into the corner.
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:07 am

This is pretty f'in sweet. axle and all that looks good how you did it and what not. keep it up!

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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:40 pm

I always wanted to shorten up an axle like that for something. Looks good. Gonna put a tractor hood on this thing when it's together?
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:35 pm

1- yeap an angle iron and clamp is the best
2- yes I will MAKE a homemade hood but I have not decide yet how its gona look. Im thinking about grill made out of flat bar and square tractor style or a hood who looks like a tube frame rockcrawler but Im still open to sujestion
3- I want the axle short just because I want to built somethin closer than possible than a lawn tractor and I tough keep those axle at full lengh will may look wierd

I was trying to make plan but even if I know were Im going with it and I have a general plan a lot of thing have to be improvise like positioning the tranny , I know were I wanted it so I just make it fit.
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PostSubject: Re: overkill built Massey 85 Lawn tractor [2016 Build-Off Entry]   Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:08 pm

nice the rear axle is assembly enough to to the suspention and drive train setup. but oups the tranny is to much on the right side anyway after some research and reflextion I gona move the tranny to the left to get a proper drive shaft alignement, I gona built a radius arm suspention system out of the jeep original suspention arms sitting on kind of semi-eleptical leaf spring setup built with light trailer leaf on rear and coil spring out of a motorcylce on front. I put 2 33'' tire on the rear axle to see how it looks like and I will put some pics to show . My feel is a monster but with real crawling capacities , finger cross!!!!
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