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PostSubject: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 17th 2013, 7:58 am

Hey guys I'm working on a 35 speed MTD lawn tractor and I just wanted to throw it out there so tell me what you guys what you think. Very Happy

Sorry if I don't get pics up cause I'm new to the fourm Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 17th 2013, 9:10 am

Sounds cool iv never heard of a 35 speed lawn mower.
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 17th 2013, 9:15 am

35 Mph? or 35 gears?


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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 17th 2013, 2:21 pm

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say MPH.
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 17th 2013, 4:17 pm

TheRainbowBoxer wrote:
35 Mph? or 35 gears?
It's going to have 35 speeds. It will use a 7 spd vari drive from a mtd and a 5 spd pearless so it'll have 35 gears
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 17th 2013, 4:20 pm

truckin42 wrote:
Sounds cool iv never heard of a 35 speed lawn mower.
Check out the thread that Jamus put up ''Montgomery wards trail tractor now murray wide body Lt'' on the second page he mentioned it.
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 17th 2013, 7:21 pm

Oh ok.
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 17th 2013, 8:58 pm

thinking of trying same thing but I have a 6 speed trans
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 18th 2013, 7:19 am

redneckcarrow wrote:
thinking of trying same thing but I have a 6 speed trans
Awesome then it'll be a 42 speed tractor!!
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 18th 2013, 8:48 am

Oh... Well, that's surprising.
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 18th 2013, 5:39 pm

So a couple minutes ago I was trying to get the mtd running n driving to see if everything works before I put TOO much time into this build and I put it in gear so the input shaft on the trans-axle wouldn't turn when I put the pulley on but it turned any in forward and reverse so i dunno whats wrong but thank goodness I wasn't planning on using that tranny because I do not have another that works. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 18th 2013, 7:26 pm

The vari drive is really a CVT tranny, with infinte ratios between the top ratio and bottom ratio. They just called it a 7 speed, because they had 7 postions.

So you have a zillion ratio tranny....
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 18th 2013, 8:12 pm

Stretch44875 wrote:
The vari drive is really a CVT tranny, with infinte ratios between the top ratio and bottom ratio. They just called it a 7 speed, because they had 7 postions.

So you have a zillion ratio tranny....
COOL I never really thought of it that way, so does that mean that i can make it have more speeds?
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 19th 2013, 7:30 am

You could make it have any ratio, but only between the top and bottom ratio. So instead of 7 postions, you could have 3, or 12 postions. All in how you set up the shifter. It won't go any faster or slower than before.
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You could make it have any ratio, but only between the top and bottom ratio. So instead of 7 postions, you could have 3, or 12 postions. All in how you set up the shifter. It won't go any faster or slower than before.
Ok that makes sense now!! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 19th 2013, 7:24 pm

I have a question does anyone know how fast stock mtd vari drives go roughly??
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 19th 2013, 7:28 pm

I dont own a vadi drive but i think they go 9-10Mph.
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 19th 2013, 7:34 pm

Yea 10mph or so max
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 19th 2013, 7:44 pm

Thanks for the speed info but what pulley ratio should I put on when I get the 5 spd in (hopefully this weekend) I'm thinking 1:1 but not sure if that'll mess up the double pulley drive. Tell me what you guys think.
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 19th 2013, 7:56 pm

1:1 ratio will work good
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 19th 2013, 8:01 pm

greener179 wrote:
1:1 ratio will work good
Ok I just wasn't sure if it'd work with vari drive so THX!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeApril 19th 2013, 9:33 pm

Like I said hopefully this weekend I will get the mst-205 peerless out of my toro (or mst-206 out of another dynamark/murray) and swap it with the single speed in the mtd I will also try to get the 20hp briggs out of my parts tractor to replace the blown 18 in the mtd now. WISH ME LUCK!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeMay 26th 2013, 12:26 pm

I am sorry for the lack of work....with school, boy scouts, and everything else I do I didn't have much time to work on this Crying or Very sad .....BUT I now have made good progress this morning. I have everything ready all I need to do is get a pulley preferably 5'' and it needs to be compatible for a 5/8'' belt, I dont think tsc is open today but if it is I will get a pulley and get everything lined up then I might put my trans-axle in depending on if we have enough time.


Hopefully i will get pics in tonight or monday night. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: 35speed beast MTD/Toro   35speed beast  MTD/Toro Icon_minitimeMay 26th 2013, 6:20 pm

You're 13, and doing this??? Right on! Kudos to you- I absolutely love seeing young'uns learning how to wrench- you're a dying breed. Seems most kids are just too wired in to the technocrap these days.
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You're 13, and doing this??? Right on! Kudos to you- I absolutely love seeing young'uns learning how to wrench- you're a dying breed. Seems most kids are just too wired in to the technocrap these days.
Agreed, I think lol. Im the only one im my grade that can build something up by myself in my garage in my hole grade, its sad.
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