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PostSubject: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeWed Sep 25, 2013 2:48 pm

MTD ive worked on for awhile now, basic things ive already done are, spindle extension, pulley swap, also took the old dual belt assebly clutch out of it, gas pedal, momentary kill switch... here are some pics!

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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeWed Sep 25, 2013 3:21 pm

Ok you need some 4 wheeler tires now, I  it pulley swapped? On my old mtd I just flipped the drive and deck pulleys so the deck was now the drive and went bout 13-15 mph with the double clutch crap. I recommend some good bumpers with bike handle bars like Fearless's and MurrayMayhem's.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeWed Sep 25, 2013 3:23 pm

I'm running 1:1 on my pony and it does atleast 20.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeWed Sep 25, 2013 3:36 pm

yea, i have the deck pulley for the drive pulley, its a 6 1/2 i tthink and the rear is a 5 inch i think... ill double check later and yea it goes 10-15 mph havent tested it with a gps but it slings the mud pretty good. next thing im going to do is extend the tranny mounting brackets (considering the only thing holding it now is the lift blocks....) and lock it.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeWed Sep 25, 2013 8:32 pm

I was thinking these, only because they are tall and skinny. And cheap to!
http://www.atvtiredepot.com/products/Duro-Thrasher-%2429.99-–-%2451.99.html
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeWed Sep 25, 2013 8:53 pm

Thrashers are ok tires, but you have a 3/4 shaft transaxle, that means you can step up to some 22" Duro Knobbies. My old Murray ran those in the rear, and it will again in the future. Whatever you do, DO NOT start getting those trailing tires, you're in FL. just like us, so you'll need some bogging tires. Also, I would get some tire cutters and make your front tires more aggressive, just eough so they can turn in the mud instead of just going straight. You should go romping with us some time, we live VERY near. By the way, how old are you?
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeWed Sep 25, 2013 8:55 pm

Another thing, if you buy the knobbies from atvtiredepot, get the 22x11x8 ones, I have the same exact ones, that I bought brand new, they perform great, my murray wasn't pulley swapped, but it could haul.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeWed Sep 25, 2013 9:32 pm

I like the tires you picked out genevacustoms. Tall, skinny, and not a lot of tread, so not much broken parts

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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeWed Sep 25, 2013 9:46 pm

i say run 25x8x12 swamp fox.. just sayin
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeThu Sep 26, 2013 6:35 am

I agree on the florida mud issue... Lol always could use some aggressive side lug but I'm into the tall skinny tires because sometimes (not all) there IS a bottom to the pit lol. And it is geared pretty high already with the direct pulley system I have now it's like always taking off in like a 4th gear, so it might increase belt slippage or bog it down to much with much bigger wider tires. I. Still thinking though.

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Anyone notice my lift blocks? Looks sketchy but it holds
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeThu Sep 26, 2013 8:56 am

@GenevaCustoms wrote:
I agree on the florida mud issue... Lol always could use some aggressive side lug but I'm into the tall skinny tires because sometimes (not all) there IS a bottom to the pit lol. And it is geared pretty high already with the direct pulley system I have now it's like always taking off in like a 4th gear, so it might increase belt slippage or bog it down to much with much bigger wider tires. I. Still thinking though.

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Anyone notice my lift blocks? Looks sketchy but it holds
Hav you thought of swapping a peerless or another different transaxle in it? You Could put a put a peerless 700 in it to if you wanted it to be totally unbreakable lol and no belt slipping. The 700 would be the better way because (depending on the mounting place) the shifter would be really easy to make.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 4:59 pm

got a little work done on the john deere

i welded the steering into place to take out like a half turn of play in the steering wheel, i can always grind it off when i have to change spindle bushings. and got the fenders DA'd down after i had sanded them and primed them before just to stop the rust , ill post the pics tommrow when i get them painted.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 5:06 pm

Builds coming along fast, yeah I like the thrashers too, my friend has them for his fourwheeler, it goes pretty good, and another tire that does really well are like FF, the trail wolfs or the 20" knobby, their are countless tires, don't get anything over 22x12x8. Unless you have a 1" axle.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 6:44 pm

@MurrayMayhem wrote:
Builds coming along fast, yeah I like the thrashers too, my friend has them for his fourwheeler, it goes pretty good, and another tire that does really well are like FF, the trail wolfs or the 20" knobby, their are countless tires, don't get anything over 22x12x8. Unless you have a 1" axle.
Technically my tires are 25x13x8 and they do fine, they are 22-11x8 carisle strykers.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 6:55 pm

a 3/4 inch axle can run 28"s all day if you brace the chassis really well
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeSun Sep 29, 2013 7:15 pm

Ya I'll most likely just run those 20x7x8 but I might get 22s if they will fit on the stock lawnmower wheels which mine are 8x8 I think I don't want to aggressive because of the shear fact I love slinging more then actually being able to not get stuck lol. But I do like not havering slicks, so tommorow I can get those pictures up of the paint job. Still have a little bit of play between the steering shaft gear and that plate gear, also a tad bit in the tierod ends. Next up is get a working clutch on this thing!! Any ideas on a good clutch setup for this kind of chassis? I built a double pulley one but my spring was WAY to tight for the metal I used and it bent. Also should I keep the ball smacker shifter? Or move it some place else
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeMon Sep 30, 2013 1:17 am

Idk bout the clutch problem, but it think you should get 22-11-8 knobbys, MM had those on his lil Murray with stuck pulley ratios and COVERED himself every time he romped!
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeMon Sep 30, 2013 2:14 am

Ive run 2 sizes on a 3/4" axle and both ran great. first, a 23" turf tamer knobby - worked great in most conditions. 2nd set were 22x11-8 trail wolfs I think it was on aluminum split rims. Neither stressed the trans much, and between the two the trail wolfs were far superior. 6 ply, could run 0 psi and they'd hold me and my tractor up fine (and I'm 275lbs). Insane grip for a trail tire, and do quite well in mud.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeMon Sep 30, 2013 10:21 am

@GenevaCustoms wrote:
Ya I'll most likely just run those 20x7x8 but I might get 22s if they will fit on the stock lawnmower wheels which mine are 8x8 I think I don't want to aggressive because of the shear fact I love slinging more then actually being able to not get stuck lol. But I do like not havering slicks, so tommorow I can get those pictures up of the paint job. Still have a little bit of play between the steering shaft gear and that plate gear, also a tad bit in the tierod ends. Next up is get a working clutch on this thing!! Any ideas on a good clutch setup for this kind of chassis?  I built a double pulley one but my spring was WAY to tight for the metal I used and it bent. Also should I keep the ball smacker shifter? Or move it some place else
Red may have some pictures on his thread of converting the viri drive to a regular peerless. O ryou may could try to use one from a murray or something. You could move the nut buster shifter some where else but you may have problems with it hitting the belt or it may be opposite from that so you could run some smaller pulleys. You should look in to getting some sand paddles they are cheap and come for lawn mower rims, and do good in the mud to
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeMon Sep 30, 2013 3:21 pm

This is a test picture.....
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If it worked its from my phone... Also that's the craftsman lol
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeMon Sep 30, 2013 5:29 pm

lol yeah it works, gotta love rear engine riders for that reason.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeMon Sep 30, 2013 7:20 pm

Wheelie bars, anyone? Avoid hillclimbing... LOL

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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeMon Sep 30, 2013 8:40 pm

haha yea i need one lol

but here is the paint on the MTD !! my custom camo this is before the clear so ill post that next

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this is the base, a semi gloss becuase it was cheaper then flat lol
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sprayin the dark green
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adding some light green to lighten it up a little bit
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adding some brown to darken it up some.. you have to have DEPTH to it
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a veiw of the back part
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i left that corner like black becuase it adds some effect of being all black there
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did that same camo to my truck to, that has clear on it tho and its dirty lol

reply with what you think of the new paint job!! ideas? im going to post just a couple pics with no description right after this with the clear on it becasue they were on my phone not my camaera.
ill be doing the hood the same way most likely unless yall have any other ideas?

let me know what you think of this build so far to !!

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PostSubject: Re: MTD mudder   MTD mudder Icon_minitimeMon Sep 30, 2013 8:46 pm

That looks dynamite, man! Nice work!

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