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This is a custom ladder frame I built about half a year ago, it's going to be powered by a 20hp Intek vtwin.  I'm using Murray body parts with a mtd hood that I have to make a new front peice. List of what I have to do.

Build clutch
Make transmission mounts
Install 820 locked
Completely custom steering from the steering wheel to the spindles
Front and rear hubs 4 on 4
Get wheels and tires
Bodywork on body panels
Shift linkage
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Temp, oil pressure, volt meter gauges
All wiring
New battery
Bumpers
Possibly winch and air horn
Gas pedal with dash cable over ride
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Fuel pump
full belt system
New pulleys
3-4 inch lift

And obviously list will change but that's the basic of what I am planning on
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PostSubject: Re: GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower   GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower Icon_minitimeFebruary 1st 2015, 12:37 pm

HOLY *****. wow. good luck. if you finish, you've got a great chance at winning.
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PostSubject: Re: GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower   GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower Icon_minitimeFebruary 1st 2015, 6:40 pm

Thanks the build off is 9 months long so hopefully I can. I just finished cleaning up the engine since it had been sitting in my shop for half a year, probably a pound of bondo dust, primer, and paint over spray was on it lol. I had the intake taped off good so that was still clean as a whistle and I even had the engine covered most of the time but dust gets everywhere. Anyways here's the beast I painted up a long time ago I may post old pictures of it right when it got painted. GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower 69C27BF8-5E11-4838-BAFA-5B206741F6A5_zpscudfsxba
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Cleaned the stator really good before re installing it also GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower BB7422CD-4473-455E-AC82-44DAD9661120_zpsk7dshuu0 Intake and carb onGenevaCustoms-custom mud mower DA30D124-C499-4768-81AC-AEC1CE28E945_zpsyhttwrab
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Good luck to you!
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That is one very pretty engine. Good luck. Looks like I have some serious competition
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PostSubject: Re: GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower   GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower Icon_minitimeFebruary 2nd 2015, 2:53 pm

Thanks, hopefull I get a chance to bedline the underside of dash and fenders today if I do I'll post pictures
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Got the fenders prepped and rust treated and bedlined, should be durable and seal up the metal also pic of frame without fenders GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower DB79516E-3BD9-42F7-B3D8-BA87D8DA9E72_zpslmwqxoei GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower B4B3B460-65D6-4352-B10B-8EDC17EFE2FC_zpshnappuvf GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower D9E750C1-F84A-4569-A2A5-C7C40B588695_zpsrboviuio GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower 2171C210-8830-4298-BC40-991934D2884F_zpstviul9b4
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PostSubject: Re: GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower   GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower Icon_minitimeFebruary 3rd 2015, 8:25 pm

Finally got a good deal on a 820 transaxle and got it today it is a 6 speed and is in good condition besides the reverse chain was broken and I think 4th gear needs to be replaced due to water and sitting I tgink. What is the best and cheapest way to posi lock an 820 and where can I find a 4th gear and reverse chain? Is my best bet ebay? Here's picsGenevaCustoms-custom mud mower 610B8D25-0F7B-4DF6-839B-87AB4C1AE22E_zpsa3ir0iwt GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower EAD499D0-EA3A-4C05-AF33-FF58D5F03301_zpsywitt1wl GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower 58B6319A-20B3-4E29-A68C-5569A35F0569_zpslzegnnur GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower 20EE1616-A3C2-48B5-8825-B46679135347_zpsesf8um3p
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PostSubject: Re: GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower   GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower Icon_minitimeFebruary 3rd 2015, 8:31 pm

The number is 820-016A
All I can seem to find is 820-016B
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PostSubject: Re: GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower   GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower Icon_minitimeFebruary 3rd 2015, 8:51 pm

Hey, shouldn't people in southern areas be handicapped slightly on their builds? I've gotta work with snow pants and a wood stove, and this guy has got people standing around the shop with shorts and a tee shirt on! But anyway, engine looks pretty nice painted up like that. Read about 4th gear might need to be replace and was about to just say, "Ahhhh, a little surface rust isn't going to hurt." Then I saw that half of the teeth are gone. Maybe your right, time for a new gear. As far as I know the gear sets are interchangeable in a lot of peerless transaxles. Should be pretty easy to get one.
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Hey, shouldn't people in southern areas be handicapped slightly on their builds? I've gotta work with snow pants and a wood stove, and this guy has got people standing around the shop with shorts and a tee shirt on! But anyway, engine looks pretty nice painted up like that. Read about 4th gear might need to be replace and was about to just say, "Ahhhh, a little surface rust isn't going to hurt." Then I saw that half of the teeth are gone. Maybe your right, time for a new gear. As far as I know the gear sets are interchangeable in a lot of peerless transaxles. Should be pretty easy to get one.
Hahaha ha the pic with guy in shorts was last summer it was an old pic I used to show when I just painted engine it's been 60's all week.... which is cold for me! And I'll probably just have to count the teeth to make sure right? Cuz I know some 820 are 5 speed.
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PostSubject: Re: GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower   GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower Icon_minitimeFebruary 3rd 2015, 9:20 pm

Most 820s are 5 speed. Theres a thread on heymow on all the gearing and what the axles are out of. i think i compaired my 5 speed to a 6 speed and the only difference is 2nd gear is in the middle of my 1st and 2nd gears for more crawling but top ratio was the same. so i guess you could make it a 5 speed or whatever and just have a jump from 3rd to 5th.


On my mower i dont think i ever use 4th. Always 3rd then slap shift to 5th to get going.

Edit, to take the cases apart you have to take that clip off the shifter shaft on the outside of the upper case, slide that off and then take the top case off while pushing the shifting shaft thru. Confused me at first too.
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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
Most 820s are 5 speed. Theres a thread on heymow on all the gearing and what the axles are out of. i think i compaired my 5 speed to a 6 speed and the only difference is 2nd gear is in the middle of my 1st and 2nd gears for more crawling but top ratio was the same. so i guess you could make it a 5 speed or whatever and just have a jump from 3rd to 5th.


On my mower i dont think i ever use 4th. Always 3rd then slap shift to 5th to get going.

Edit, to take the cases apart you have to take that clip off the shifter shaft on the outside of the upper case, slide that off and then take the top case off while pushing the shifting shaft thru. Confused me at first too.
it came apart I took the shift fork out after I took top case off and I tapped it out and didn't notice a clip? And yea I Geuss I'll just check around for matching teeth to just swap that gear out and then figure out the best way to lock it, did you f0zzy lock yours? I don't have extra spider gears anyway lol
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PostSubject: Re: GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower   GenevaCustoms-custom mud mower Icon_minitimeFebruary 3rd 2015, 10:14 pm

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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
Most 820s are 5 speed. Theres a thread on heymow on all the gearing and what the axles are out of. i think i compaired my 5 speed to a 6 speed and the only difference is 2nd gear is in the middle of my 1st and 2nd gears for more crawling but top ratio was the same. so i guess you could make it a 5 speed or whatever and just have a jump from 3rd to 5th.


On my mower i dont think i ever use 4th. Always 3rd then slap shift to 5th to get going.

Edit, to take the cases apart you have to take that clip off the shifter shaft on the outside of the upper case, slide that off and then take the top case off while pushing the shifting shaft thru. Confused me at first too.
it came apart I took the shift fork out after I took top case off and I tapped it out and didn't notice a clip? And yea I Geuss I'll just check around for matching teeth to just swap that gear out and then figure out the best way to lock it, did you f0zzy lock yours? I don't have extra spider gears anyway lol

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That little clip thing at the bottom of the shaft, i just put mine back together lol.

Yea i fozzy locked mine and dont expect nothing bad to happen. people lock em with extra spider gears so why would a foxxy be different in a enclosed diff. Make sure to loctie the diff carrier bolts too. seen one back out and ruin a case
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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
GenevaCustoms wrote:
redlinemotorsportts wrote:
Most 820s are 5 speed. Theres a thread on heymow on all the gearing and what the axles are out of. i think i compaired my 5 speed to a 6 speed and the only difference is 2nd gear is in the middle of my 1st and 2nd gears for more crawling but top ratio was the same. so i guess you could make it a 5 speed or whatever and just have a jump from 3rd to 5th.


On my mower i dont think i ever use 4th. Always 3rd then slap shift to 5th to get going.

Edit, to take the cases apart you have to take that clip off the shifter shaft on the outside of the upper case, slide that off and then take the top case off while pushing the shifting shaft thru. Confused me at first too.
it came apart I took the shift fork out after I took top case off and I tapped it out and didn't notice a clip? And yea I Geuss I'll just check around for matching teeth to just swap that gear out and then figure out the best way to lock it, did you f0zzy lock yours? I don't have extra spider gears anyway lol

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That little clip thing at the bottom of the shaft, i just put mine back together lol.

Yea i fozzy locked mine and dont expect nothing bad to happen. people lock em with extra spider gears so why would a foxxy be different in a enclosed diff. Make sure to loctie the diff carrier bolts too. seen one back out and ruin a case
i guess I'll probably fozzy lock mine I think I'm going to run a drain plug also and how do these things vent if they are sealed? Should I replace all of the orings while its apart? Lol
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Also do you fozzy lock it with the bigger spider gears? Or the smaller ones?oops I was thinking mg about the wrong thing, if I foxzy lock it maybe I should do a locker block also? Like with a peice of box steel? Also found it it was actually an 820-010A
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I'm not sure how you could do a locker block with the diff halls there but yea I fozzy'd the axle spiders. I put new grease in it and called it good but all my I rings were good.
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I'm not sure how you could do a locker block with the diff halls there but yea I fozzy'd the axle spiders. I put new grease in it and called it good but all my I rings were good.
i don't trust my little welder to be powerful enough so I may leave it unlocked Untill I get a better welder. The 90amp will not penetrate good enough in my opinion lol. But I will deffinatley look for a different option im goin to try and just replace the gear and chain so I don't want to buy extra spider gears and fozzy wouldn't hold I don't think with my welder.. But how much stress is on the actual welds it kinda seems they don't have a lot of actual stress but more of just fill the gaps so axles can't turn
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Does anyone know if peerless 920 spur gears will swap into an 820? Only 35 tooth spur gear I can find is for a 920, all of the parts diagrams for 820 has them but they don't actually have it for sale
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Don't know anything about the gears, but I fozzy locked my 801 with a 125 amp flux core and it has held up just fine.
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I ordered my reverse chain from partstree and it says 2-3 days it will be here it was $27 with shipping. I think I will probably just make a spacer and remove that gear. I don't think I would miss it, maybe later I will find one and swap it in. I found the gear rations for this tranny also, has the granny low.
1st is 4.55-1
2nd is 3.08-1
3rd is 2.33-1
4th is 1.50-1
5th is 0.79-1
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i agree about nothing going to happen, but the ideas of the 2nd set is that your using the same hardened steel that pulls you around anyway. with the fozzy,the theory is it could push out the weld or crush it or even try to walk over it (i dont see that, if it did, the bull gear would be f up by then) also, that this gona fly with that what 3 inch pulley? maybe 2.5?
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i agree about nothing going to happen, but the ideas of the 2nd set is that your using the same hardened steel that pulls you around anyway. with the fozzy,the theory is it could push out the weld or crush it or even try to walk over it (i dont see that, if it did, the bull gear would be f up by then) also, that this gona fly with that what 3 inch pulley? maybe 2.5?

I effed up a fozzy lock once and the spiders were jumping the welds and making some terrible noises. Turns out the welds needed to be beefed up and were in between the wrong teeth. The one I did right never complains.
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i agree about nothing going to happen, but the ideas of the 2nd set is that your using the same hardened steel that pulls you around anyway. with the fozzy,the theory is it could push out the weld or crush it or even try to walk over it (i dont see that, if it did, the bull gear would be f up by then) also, that this gona fly with that what 3 inch pulley? maybe 2.5?
the picture with the small pulley was reds transmission
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