One of the things I noticed right away was how much LARGER the 820 brake is compared to an MST. Like Comparing a Dime to a 50 cent piece.
Oh yes. Those 820 brakes are HUGE! Can't wait to see 'er back on the trails!
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 March 27th 2019, 12:36 pm
Got it in and together. YAY!
Couple things...
Need to adjust the brake. Although 1-4 shifts like silk, neutral is a little sticky, and I cannot seem to get it in reverse. Hmm.... I have a couple ideas. I thought it worked fine on the bench, but that was before I put in the vent. I think it is catching in the neutral punchout on the shifter. I'll add a washer.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 March 27th 2019, 3:36 pm
OK, so, I think my brake issue is the spring rod is too weak for the brakes. So, I will look into making a separate brake pedal and just have the other as clutch only.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 March 27th 2019, 4:00 pm
Nice to see it on all fours again and those are nice metal chips. That's what I like to see.
You'll want a good set of brakes and perhaps a couple spare pads for haspin. If you don't get to the winch don't sweat it because the nice thing about riding with a group of guys is it's pretty easy for 2 or 3 guys to get a tractor unstuck without a winch.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 March 27th 2019, 7:16 pm
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Nice to see it on all fours again and those are nice metal chips. That's what I like to see.
You'll want a good set of brakes and perhaps a couple spare pads for haspin. If you don't get to the winch don't sweat it because the nice thing about riding with a group of guys is it's pretty easy for 2 or 3 guys to get a tractor unstuck without a winch.
Yeah, may need to look into that. Once I get the new brake petal connected, I'll see how I like performance of them. I may need to look into what the Mowrons did.
I'll have the winch by this weekend. I have some birthday $$$ that I have saved up. I was going to get it today but I we didn't have the chance.
First thing I noticed was how smooth I was riding again. I guess sometime I had bent the previous axle in the MST and it had a slight wobble. I feel that once I get the brake resolved, it could tackle about anything.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 March 27th 2019, 9:22 pm
OK, did some checking and the spring rod isn't even moving enough to engage the brake. I realized my clutch pedal isn't full range of motion. Need stronger spring on clutch or a slightly smaller belt or both..
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 March 28th 2019, 12:04 pm
dangit, I want a 820 so bad for my Widebody!
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 1st 2019, 10:24 pm
Ugh.... this thing is really pissing me off trying to get it ready for Haspin. I have always had brake issues with Red. I've never gone crazy with it due to the brakes. I put in the 820 and I still have the issues even though the 820 has a far superior system than the MST. I will obviously have to run a separate brake from the clutch. I put on a new belt, and now I am having clutching issues. UGH!
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 1st 2019, 10:29 pm
Sounds like she's really putting you through the wringer!
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 1st 2019, 10:41 pm
It's aggravating.
So.... if this thing is a bust at haspin or does not make it... there may be some SEVERE changes to Li'L RED. Let's say if I were going to enter it in the 2020 Build-Off I probably could and leave it a Rally machine....
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 2nd 2019, 12:02 pm
Dangit! I hope U can get that all fixed!
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 2nd 2019, 1:14 pm
@MightyRaze Don't sweat it bud! Yeah a seperate brake lever or pedal is the way to go. I'm sure you won't be the only person with a clutch or oil leak at Haspin. Nobody's tractor is perfect.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 2nd 2019, 4:31 pm
I know how you feel. It's horrible. And let me guess, the engine leak is coming from the sump, Right?
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 2nd 2019, 4:54 pm
Brakes are one of the most aggravating things at Haspin. They generally last about a day due to the nature of the dirt/mud there. I've gotten used to using them only in emergencies in order to preserve them.
As far as oil leaks/burning, Stretch and I always check the oil in our rigs before each ride regardless of puddles or clouds LOL.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 2nd 2019, 8:18 pm
I figured out my clutch issue. Way back in the day when I first started building this and made a new double pulley clutch. I made a clutch rod that was about 3 inches too long! I resolved that. That helped brakes a "little", but I still intend to change out the brake rod.
PS, oil leak right now appears to be around the oil drain. I replaced the sump and bottom seal a couple years ago.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 2nd 2019, 9:20 pm
GRRRR!!!!!
Well busted my key on the engine. Completely sheered and lost. Also, I realized the pulley sits higher on the 820 and I thought I aligned it with the clutch. BAH! I just got it back together after teardown.
This thing is fighting me tooth and nail not to go.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 3rd 2019, 9:48 am
Well there is still two months to go man. I suppose the 820 isn't a direct swap in. I hate messing with belt alignment too especially vertical shaft stuff.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 3rd 2019, 11:32 am
Aligning it should not be an issue. Heck I may not even have to take the tractor apart to do that. The parts that bother me is all the "band-aids" I have done to this tractor in the past 4-5 years are starting to show. I don't need or want "band-aids" for the big show. Those will make for a short day.
basically, it comes down to.... I'm a big guy and I think it is about time to retire the light flimsy widebody frame for something a little better? That still somewhat flimsy 85 GT frame is looking a little more appealing out back.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 4th 2019, 11:16 am
Haha. I know what you mean. I'm pretty much in the same situation with my hydro. As for a frame swap, I'm not sure it's worth it. It's a lot of work for a little reward.
Which key did you shear? Pulley, flywheel or something else I don't know about?
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 4th 2019, 12:58 pm
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If I can get Red to Haspin....unless it comes out as the bee's knees, Haspin may end up being, Red's Retirement going out with a bang!
Then TOTAL Rebuild.
Sounds like a great plan to me! Fully SEND IT at Haspin, then take all the good parts and build a better rig for next year. You (and I) will learn great things at Haspin for the rebuild too.
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 7th 2019, 9:39 am
Isn't funny how these things always work themselves out. Well, back to work .
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 7th 2019, 1:42 pm
it turned out great!
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Subject: Re: Li'l Red 1 April 7th 2019, 11:11 pm
It's driving well again with new key and such. Not sure why the key disintegrated or where it went, but I do have a good idea what happened. I do know when the key went on the engine, it went with a "POP". When I put the 820 back together the brake disk was pretty badly rusted. I figured the brake pads would clean it up. Turns out the brake disk ate away the disk pads to almost nothing. While trying to adjust the brakes, I ended up completely tightened it to a point I locked up the transaxle. That is why I sheered the key. I have 2 new pucks on the way. Meanwhile I will be polishing the brake disk. Before I go and try to work out the brake issues, I will see if this will resolve my issue first.