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RichieRichOverdrive DimeWeld

Join date : 2016-10-29 Posts : 2928
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:40 pm | |
| Spicer gearboxes are pretty good. Spicer transaxles are ok, but you gotta be kinda gentle with em, from what I've seen.
The steering radius on Mutt didnt change much with the diff lock, but she's a heavy tractor. Don't know what itd be like on a lighter one. |
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muckmudd Vice Grip


Age : 18 Join date : 2017-07-11 Posts : 825 Forum Rep : 26 Location : In the shop
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:52 pm | |
| It seemed to be ok when I locked the LT130 which is pretty similar to a craftsman. just a little bit of burnt rubber when I turn but oh well. And spiced is made by Dana so it cant be that bad. |
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Double W Cross Ranch DimeWeld


Age : 17 Join date : 2017-06-09 Posts : 2600 Forum Rep : 87 Location : Literally Nowhere, Texas
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:28 pm | |
| Neah, the trannys are fine. I beat on mine and have no issues. |
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muckmudd Vice Grip


Age : 18 Join date : 2017-07-11 Posts : 825 Forum Rep : 26 Location : In the shop
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:30 pm | |
| Planning on locking it on friday. |
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Double W Cross Ranch DimeWeld


Age : 17 Join date : 2017-06-09 Posts : 2600 Forum Rep : 87 Location : Literally Nowhere, Texas
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:35 am | |
| What kinda lock are you doing? |
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muckmudd Vice Grip


Age : 18 Join date : 2017-07-11 Posts : 825 Forum Rep : 26 Location : In the shop
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:03 pm | |
| the same one as on my LT130. Just weld it. I want do do a real solid axle at some point but that will probably be on the LT130. |
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Double W Cross Ranch DimeWeld


Age : 17 Join date : 2017-06-09 Posts : 2600 Forum Rep : 87 Location : Literally Nowhere, Texas
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:59 pm | |
| Yeah, welding should be fine as long as you don't put crazy tires on or something. |
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muckmudd Vice Grip


Age : 18 Join date : 2017-07-11 Posts : 825 Forum Rep : 26 Location : In the shop
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:37 pm | |
| Ahaha they're not very aggressive but they are fairly big |
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Double W Cross Ranch DimeWeld


Age : 17 Join date : 2017-06-09 Posts : 2600 Forum Rep : 87 Location : Literally Nowhere, Texas
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:47 pm | |
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CraftsmanQuad19 BoogerWeld


Age : 20 Join date : 2016-04-12 Posts : 2494 Forum Rep : 146 Location : Indiana
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:50 pm | |
| Well....the bigger the tire, the more leverage. Leverage = potential breakage. A doc lock is the way to go for large tires IMHO |
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muckmudd Vice Grip


Age : 18 Join date : 2017-07-11 Posts : 825 Forum Rep : 26 Location : In the shop
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:09 pm | |
| yeah next time i'm in a town with a princess auto I will try to get the supplies. It might be a while... |
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Double W Cross Ranch DimeWeld


Age : 17 Join date : 2017-06-09 Posts : 2600 Forum Rep : 87 Location : Literally Nowhere, Texas
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:36 am | |
| Never seen that done with a spicer before, should be interesting! |
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muckmudd Vice Grip


Age : 18 Join date : 2017-07-11 Posts : 825 Forum Rep : 26 Location : In the shop
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:18 am | |
| Yeah, it might not be totally worth it but if I need to at some point, I could probably swap in into a peerless. |
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Double W Cross Ranch DimeWeld


Age : 17 Join date : 2017-06-09 Posts : 2600 Forum Rep : 87 Location : Literally Nowhere, Texas
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:29 am | |
| IDK, the gear with the differential in it is smaller in a Spicer than it is in a Peerless. |
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muckmudd Vice Grip


Age : 18 Join date : 2017-07-11 Posts : 825 Forum Rep : 26 Location : In the shop
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:51 pm | |
| Oh really? Good to know, I think it will be pretty hard to find a peerless around here. Mostly just craftsmans and not very many old mowers. |
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CraftsmanQuad19 BoogerWeld


Age : 20 Join date : 2016-04-12 Posts : 2494 Forum Rep : 146 Location : Indiana
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:58 pm | |
| Craftsman used peerless mostly. Usually a 900 in an LT, or an 820 or 633 in the GTs. Of course there will be hydros, but as far as gear drives go they’re mostly peerless. There might be a spicer or two, but most mowers made by AYP were built to a price point. Poulon, weedeater, meijer, etc is all luck of the draw. Could have literally anything |
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Double W Cross Ranch DimeWeld


Age : 17 Join date : 2017-06-09 Posts : 2600 Forum Rep : 87 Location : Literally Nowhere, Texas
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:01 pm | |
| Neah, weedeaters are pretty good tractors. |
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CraftsmanQuad19 BoogerWeld


Age : 20 Join date : 2016-04-12 Posts : 2494 Forum Rep : 146 Location : Indiana
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:06 pm | |
| They are, because they’re the same design as a craftsman. But with more corners cut. Bushings, transaxle, etc |
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Double W Cross Ranch DimeWeld


Age : 17 Join date : 2017-06-09 Posts : 2600 Forum Rep : 87 Location : Literally Nowhere, Texas
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:08 pm | |
| My WeedEater has a MST 205 in it. Good engine, good deck, no complaints here. |
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CraftsmanQuad19 BoogerWeld


Age : 20 Join date : 2016-04-12 Posts : 2494 Forum Rep : 146 Location : Indiana
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:18 pm | |
| I don’t remember what mine had in it. Mom made me ditch it before I really got into modding mowers. It was before I knew anything about the off-road community, but every time I think of it I get all PO’d because it would’ve been a great tractor to build |
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AllisKidD21 Moderator


Age : 22 Join date : 2016-07-10 Posts : 5080 Forum Rep : 266 Location : Ontario Canada
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:18 pm | |
| The 633's aren't made by Peerless.They never have been, but it's a popular misconception. Also the Craftsman GT's don't have a 633A38 transaxle in them but a slighty lighter duty AYP version. Mine is a 122419X. _______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green     "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill    - MTD Off-Road Build      - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build    - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Allis B-110, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655 & 953 - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford LGT 125 & 145 - |
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CraftsmanQuad19 BoogerWeld


Age : 20 Join date : 2016-04-12 Posts : 2494 Forum Rep : 146 Location : Indiana
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:57 pm | |
| Oh yeah I remember the whole 633 2300 discussion. Other than cast iron what’s the difference? The 2300 doesn’t have hi-lo right? I basically see the 633 synonymous with peerless but technically speaking you are correct.
Lighter duty? How so? I figured they would all be the same |
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muckmudd Vice Grip


Age : 18 Join date : 2017-07-11 Posts : 825 Forum Rep : 26 Location : In the shop
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:04 pm | |
| A cast iron would be ideal. However, the three craftsman's that I've got have spicers. I guess the 1000 doesn't really count though because it did have a hydro in it before someone did a spicer swap. Does spicer also make hydros? Many tractors are very similar or have similar points to them, for example my LT130 is very similar to my LT4000. |
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MightyRaze Administrator


Age : 45 Join date : 2016-09-06 Posts : 6918 Forum Rep : 516 Location : Central Oklahoma
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:06 pm | |
| 2300 does not have hi lo. But it's definitely heavier both structurally and weight. _______________________________________________ Li'l RED my original modified tractor!Forum Admin -- Chat Admin-- Facebook Page Admin ATLTF Facebook Page -- How To Upload PicturesHave a question? Ask me! Type in " @MightyRaze" in your post! Your ATLTF Staff: Administrators: @Doug, @MightyRaze, @"Doc Sprocket", @Stretch44875Moderators: @TheRainbowBoxer, @AllisKidD21 |
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AllisKidD21 Moderator


Age : 22 Join date : 2016-07-10 Posts : 5080 Forum Rep : 266 Location : Ontario Canada
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:08 pm | |
| Naw the 633s are a completely different shape and mounting setup than the 2300dms. The gears and shafts are of different design I believe and the 633s have hi/low range, which the Peerless 1200 and 2300s do not. The ones made by AYP are slightly less heavy duty than the ones made my Roper I think but they are still plenty beefy. They also have the splined axles, which is cool. _______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green     "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill    - MTD Off-Road Build      - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build    - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Allis B-110, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655 & 953 - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford LGT 125 & 145 - |
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CraftsmanQuad19 BoogerWeld


Age : 20 Join date : 2016-04-12 Posts : 2494 Forum Rep : 146 Location : Indiana
 | Subject: Re: Craftsman Lt4000 mild off-roader Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:20 pm | |
| The AYP and sears/roper 633 isn’t made by the same company for both brands? But I meant what’s less heavy duty exactly? What did they cheap out on? |
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