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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 23, 2022 12:36 pm

My dad was a Ferris dealer. I build my front ends out of Ferris solid front axles. They fit perfectly in AYP craftsman front ends. Just trim the ends down and make spindles for them. Super heavy duty
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 26, 2022 2:42 pm

Well time it got a name and I guess I settled on the mutant turtle 🐢

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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Aug 29, 2022 11:45 am

Haven't really been working on it since iam waiting on the belt.
However I have been thinking about future plans.

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One of them includes this Walbro carb I found lying around in the shop.
I will more than likely just rebuild it and put an ec jet in.
Some light engine mods are taken into consideration but require some more thought.

Front suspension is also still a touchy subject.
I have the parts for the front worked out but not the suspension.
If possible ireally want a 4 link system but I don't have any idea on the geometry and what to order.
Maybe someone here will be willing to help me out?
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Sep 05, 2022 6:22 am

Belt should arrive today.

Meanwhile things moved up the priority list.
I'll be opening the engine today and remove the camshaft and governor.

A customer of ours needs a second hand camshaft and I really want to get rid of the compression release so I call that a win win.

Also I decided to do away with the Walbro and whent for a nibbi that I found for sale on Amazon.
These are really good D slide clones
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I only went with a 30mm as there was a special discount on those.
Looking at the Walbro it's 30mm aswell but really necked down at the Venturi so effectively more like 26.
In the end I don't need a huge carb just better throttle response.

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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Sep 05, 2022 10:24 am

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Let's make it a party

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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Sep 05, 2022 11:02 am

Removed the governor and tapped the hole with a 9/16 fine thread.
Put it in with Loctite, rtv and a copper washer so if that'll ever leak I'll be surprised Mutant turtle - Page 2 Img20283
And while we're at it I pulled the head as well to have it decked
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Found a spare metal pushrod in the trash pile
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Sep 06, 2022 2:21 pm

Should run really strong ! Nice work on the governer delete
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Sep 07, 2022 3:40 am

Creepycrawler wrote:
Should run really strong ! Nice work on the governer delete

Thanks

Meanwhile I went looking in our old stock and found a nos water pump manifold for kubota
So I'll cut it off at the red line and use that as an intake manifold together with a 90 degree hose

The holes on the head almost line up perfectly, just need to file it a little
I could also add the pcv hose if I want or block the secondary pipe

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Also, starter...
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Sep 07, 2022 4:40 am

Head came back from the shop, guess I could have gone further but iam happy for now
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Sep 07, 2022 5:52 pm

What did that head cost you to get done?
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Sep 07, 2022 11:10 pm

About 40 bucks cash in hand alongside a customer's head

Full overhaul with chemical cleaning, valves lapped, decking and pressure test is about 200 for a 3 cyl diesel

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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Sep 08, 2022 12:22 am

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Quick valve lap

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Valves back in, just put it back on the block temporarily so I don't lose things or drop it by accident
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Sep 08, 2022 9:13 am

Intake, looking very sharp.
I still have to take some paint off and polish it
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Inside diameter is 30mm which lines up perfectly with the head and the carb is also 30mm so that is really nice.
The original manifold had about a 26mm id.

The Bolt holes I filed out and i had just barely had a smidge left but it worked out fine.

Iam also thinking about perhaps scrounging in the scrap pile if I can maybe find some other rockers from a Kawasaki Kohler or Briggs vanguard that I could make work


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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Sep 09, 2022 2:37 am

Looked at it yesterday and decided it was good after a long day of work.
Now iam at work on my off day with too much energy so guess what?

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Custom gasket
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Sep 09, 2022 2:38 am

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Straight shot.

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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Sep 09, 2022 3:52 am

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Her majesty back together again

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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Sep 11, 2022 12:49 am

Iam an absolute menace with a cutting wheel.
I was modifying the pan for the hd starter and nicked the pan.

I could see a tiny pinprick whent trough so for now I put some JB weld on.
Next time I'll open it I'll have it fixed or put another pan

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Supplier also dropped by so I asked him if he could get me 2 bolts for the hd starter
Going to guess that they are 5/16x4 inch but that's simply an educated guess as I have no access to Imperial bolts at work and neither Briggs or JD state a size

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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Sep 12, 2022 11:50 pm

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I have been going back and forth on the front suspension for a while but already decided to use Ferris spindles whatever happens.

Now another challenger entered the ring.
I have thought about ripping two of these arms off of a used machine and welding some Dom sleeves and bushings on.
That would basically get me 70% without too much effort.
The right side would basically move into the location where the front arm is now and the left would basically be somewhere where the engine is mounted.

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And plumbed in the pcv, I actually have a really good catch can that came from my car but as I might use the port for a vacuum pump in the future I might as well leave it be for now
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Sep 13, 2022 6:37 am

So I got lucky again.
When I ordered the belt i ordered it with priority shipping but it arrived a week late
Amazon however refunded me the full price and shipping.

So I ordered some nice things for 1 dollar

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Especially love the form factor on the muffler. It's 2 inch od and 12 inch long
Also some exhaust wrap as iam going to stick weld it together and am most likely to cover up some crimes
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Sep 13, 2022 10:46 pm

some impressive work you're doing can't wait to see it all back together and up and running !
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Sep 14, 2022 12:54 am

diddie wrote:
some impressive work you're doing can't wait to see it all back together and up and running !

Thanks, just taking a while since iam doing them at work during quiet minutes or after hours.

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Parts guy came through, need to chase the threads before I tighten them up since these are a smidge longer than original.

The angle is a bit odd but it should fit, the starters that are listed on ec carburettors are also for vanguard and this is from a vanguard engine.

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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Sep 14, 2022 7:27 pm

fbisurveilancevan wrote:
diddie wrote:
some impressive work you're doing can't wait to see it all back together and up and running !

Thanks, just taking a while since iam doing them at work during quiet minutes or after hours.

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Parts guy came through, need to chase the threads before I tighten them up since these are a smidge longer than original.

The angle is a bit odd but it should fit, the starters that are listed on ec carburettors are also for vanguard and this is from a vanguard engine.
Sweet that looks like one of those high torque starters, are you thinking of adding an arc billet aluminum flywheel Ashwell?

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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Sep 14, 2022 10:54 pm

Yes, this is a heavy duty starter.
They come standard on some John Deere gators.
With the compression release removed and the head milled I kind of have to use one or else it'll be a pain to start

Iam not replacing the flywheel as the shipping and import charges would simply be astronomical.
If I ever find a used one I might reconsider

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The bolts were like a hair too long so I cut a bit off.
Also modified the cover already, haven't tested the starter yet but iam just going full send

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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Sep 15, 2022 7:55 pm

fbisurveilancevan wrote:
Yes, this is a heavy duty starter.
They come standard on some John Deere gators.
With the compression release removed and the head milled I kind of have to use one or else it'll be a pain to start

Iam not replacing the flywheel as the shipping and import charges would simply be astronomical.
If I ever find a used one I might reconsider

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The bolts were like a hair too long so I cut a bit off.
Also modified the cover already, haven't tested the starter yet but iam just going full send
that's Shure a good reason, the cost of shipping is absolute bonkers, looking forward to that full send for Shure!
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PostSubject: Re: Mutant turtle   Mutant turtle - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Sep 16, 2022 3:09 am

It's off day Friday again.
Messing around with some pulleys so you guys know what's happening now.
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Out with the plastic
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Punching out some sleeves for reuse and measurements.
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That's one done, two more to go

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New v idler set to guide it past the steering shaft
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I didn't put it on the lift so this will have to do.
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