-= Li'l Red =-

You and Brianator are absolutely right as to the angle of the coilovers. Leaning them in like that gives the suspension more leverage on them, and resistance likely decreases as the suspension is more compressed, at least compared to a more straight setup. Your setup actually has more angle to it than any other I can remember seeing, lol.

Well, I finally got around and did it.  Now the shocks are || instead of /\.

Front still has the shock cushion, but it is a bit stiffer for not being so tipy.  Now it is just murray tippy.  LOL



As mentioned, easy bolt on.  This one I accidentally drilled the hole in the top.  Sometime in the future, I'll trim off the excess.

MightyRaze wrote:

Well, I finally got around and did it.  Now the shocks are || instead of /\.

Front still has the shock cushion, but it is a bit stiffer for not being so tipy.  Now it is just murray tippy.  LOL

That right front tire has evidence of jumping...

TechnoChicken wrote:

MightyRaze wrote:

Well, I finally got around and did it.  Now the shocks are || instead of /\.

Front still has the shock cushion, but it is a bit stiffer for not being so tipy.  Now it is just murray tippy.  LOL

That right front tire has evidence of jumping...

Lots of wheelie popping.

Got some wheelin' in today. Not as fun at my in-laws now since they have been clearing out trees. It's wheelin' non-the-less and some riding is better than no riding!







Bowser ran great today. I had the brake nut a little too much screwed in. Nothing a 1/2 wrench couldn't handle. Red ran well today as well! I did catch a log due to the lower front axle height. I bounced off the little skid plate on the axle as hoped and was able to continue without issue. I tried to video the ride but only one camera worked but it was too "vibrating to be usable".

Doing some thinking and I think the tires on L'il Red are going to migrate to the Wheel Horse build Red Bandit.  Then I think the currently unused Rat Rod tires from Dirty Rat will migrate to L'il Red and The Dirty Rat will stick with the offroad set as the Default Tires.

You catch all that?  LOL  I hope so. 

These tires will go to the Red Bandit


These tires will go to Li'l Red.


These are now the default tires for the Dirty Rat

[adm]At this point, the Li'l 'Red thread is ended.  I'll post up a new topic with it's new category. [/adm]

After Haspin this June, Li'l Red will more than likely be retired and stripped down with Bowser to make 1 really good tractor for my Daughter.  The MST just isn't keeping up with the abuse with the current setup.  Then the crack in Bowser's frame.  As mentioned.  This will probably be the end of Li'l Red.  My true first mud mower.  I never ride it anymore it seems and I just have too many. 

Such a hard decision.  Too many variables in the pot right now.

This is the saddest thing I’ve read all day. I sure hope Red can live on.

Murraymountain wrote:

This is the saddest thing I’ve read all day. I sure hope Red can live on.

Right now I am on the, "it stays" side of the fence.  Thinking, retire Bowser and move my daughter to Li'l Red.  It just needs a few things fixed to my knowledge.

I like that train or though better lol. Lil Red is an icon of the mud mower world. One of the OG’s in my opinion.

Murraymountain wrote:

I like that train or though better lol. Lil Red is an icon of the mud mower world. One of the OG’s in my opinion.

Definitely one of the first Non-LT widebodies with a twin I have seen.  Fearless had an LT.  Doc was well after with Fugazi.  When he sold that, it's pretty much done in the mud mower world at that point with him.  He still has Swamp Donkey, but I think the desire flew out the door when he lost his friend "Lawn Gone".

Talk to me Red.... Talk to me.



You are not destined to be a speed build.

OK, I think I figured how to upgrade Bowser, but not retire off Red.  I swap transaxles.  820 in red to Bowser, and the MST in Bowser back to Red.

Just not motivated to do it.  I did put the LT dash back in Bowser.  Easier to put gas in with the lower dash.  

Lets look over a few differences in the Murray Widebody and the Murray Widebody LT.

Obviously the Widebody is geared for the larger engine.  The Longer wider hood and the taller dash allows for space.

Dash Differences. (We all know that isn't a widebody hood on  Red)
Widebody hood:


Dash diffs.



As you can see it is a few inches taller!  Same lower tower.

Fender pan is also taller and longer!  Also, taller hitch plate on the Widebody.





Outside those items, I don't see much difference.

I can't help but think it is time to give Li'l Red some attention or something. Hasn't really been touched in quite some time. I feel that I lost the fun factor with over engineering it a bit in the front. I also lost some ground clearance in my spindle update. I've contemplated pulling an @AllisKidD21 with MTD and retiring it, breaking it down for parts. Use the parts to beef up Bowser more.

Something happened the other day with Li'l Red...