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PostSubject: Re: 1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna”   1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna” - Page 2 Icon_minitimeOctober 24th 2023, 11:08 pm

I got the starter all repaired. I need to find the shim for it and it can go back together. Got a bit high on the solder and the zinc flux fumes but evidently I lived. Little sketchy as soldering with a propane torch can very easily ignite gaskets that allegedly may or may not be made of card stock. No senseless accusations now, I have my rights :p

Progress! Slowly but surely, we’re getting there.

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PostSubject: Re: 1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna”   1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna” - Page 2 Icon_minitimeOctober 25th 2023, 12:25 am

Not to mention some of those old gaskets are made of asbestos too.


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I suspect you’re right. 1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna” - Page 2 5f95d788ab817676cb2b19cd99961b7c The forbidden cotton candy.

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PostSubject: Re: 1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna”   1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna” - Page 2 Icon_minitimeNovember 2nd 2023, 10:29 pm

Well the old gal runs again. Idles 👌 minty. Turns out the condenser went bad (even though I just replaced it! GRRRRR). Quick painless fix though. Still need to do a water pump and fuel pump, going to need to remove the loader for that but it’ll be fine™

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PostSubject: Re: 1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna”   1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna” - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2024, 4:16 pm

So after finding cracked wire insulation in a few places, damaged connectors, and generally just 56 years of mice and atmosphere I looked into a new wiring harness. Correct harnesses for something that has just one 8 pin connector, 500 dollars to start with, that ain’t even OEM. Think I’m going to spend 300 on new wire and stuff and just make an OEM- equivalent harness, matching terminals and colors to be OEM identical because I’m a near freak and I hate chasing wiring issues.

Or I may just solder new repairs on, but something about doing that on an expensive harness gives me the heebie jeebies.

Also a nice opportunity to convert to a higher amp alternator so I can run better lighting. 4 halogen sealed beams is probably taxing that little 20 amp genny good. Trying to keep the LEDs toned down in order to keep that “period correct” look.

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@Rustbucket Garage I've made all new wiring harnesses for a few tractors. You should be able to keep the material cost under $50. I get all the free connectors and 16awg wire I need from work but small quantities of that stuff is pretty cheap. I like to print out a diagram of the terminals on the key switch so I'm sure I'm hooking everything up to it correctly. I also take inspiration from the OG wiring harness for mounting locations and wrapping.

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PostSubject: Re: 1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna”   1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna” - Page 2 Icon_minitimeJanuary 24th 2024, 12:52 pm

Oh yeah, net material cost isn’t that bad, with the amount of different colors though it’s going to be a lot of upfront cost but I’ll have a ton for future projects.

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PostSubject: Re: 1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna”   1968 Ford 5000 “Luanna” - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFebruary 4th 2024, 1:14 am

Trying to decide now whether to pull the hodge-podged industrial loader off and sell it, and buy the proper one or sell the loader and buy a cheap backhoe I found to handle all the earthmoving chores. Dunno, it’s a really strong loader but it’s very inconvenient working around it being so close to the tractor body. Was designed for a 3 cylinder industrial, namely the 3500, 4400 and all the associated models. Mines a 4 cylinder so the frame is longer and the tractor rides higher, even though both are utility though.

Having grown up running compacts though, I will say having more tractor than loader is an enjoyable sentiment as opposed to something that doesn’t like moving stone and feels really worked with a load of soil.

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Little update. I cleaned and remanufactured (see also: spray painted) the radiator, installed a new thermostat, new coolant, fixed the steering slop, and also managed to find a good deal on a ROPS and canopy a couple towns over, so I wire wheeled the rust and brushed on a coat of paint (horrible idea BTW, I’m using a roller next time). Makes me wonder if I should brush paint my neighbors PT Cruiser, at least the paint will run :p

Managed to source a used upper grill which I polished and cleaned up a little. Adds a nice look to the tractor. Because the alternator is 22 amps I decided to pull off the front halogens and I’m mounting 4 LED pods on the canopy which should cut amperage draw down a bit. I also am going to call a local guy and see about getting the generator rebuilt because the bearings are going bad and the terminals aren’t the healthiest either. Charges fine, but needs some love.

Spent 70 dollars on the 8 bolts for the ROPS mount, 3/4-10 x 9. This thing is not going anywhere once it’s on.

Found a foot throttle kit for this tractor cheap online so that’s in the works, I saw a guy with one of these floating gears like on a big truck as they’re both sliding gear transmissions. I think that’s useful for accessing road gear when loaded with something so I intend to set that up. The rops came with some 3/16 wire mesh grating as a debris shield (the donor tractor was a highway mower) which I had no use for, so off it came. I will be welding some angle iron to it and making a brush guard to go on the bull bar on the loader so I don’t get a pokey stabby branch denying my nice new grill while I’m mowing with the old girl.


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Update time! Got the ROPS mounted and its wiring roughed in. The halogens on there are coming off I decided in favor of some more LEDs. She’s still running great, it appears the resistor in the temperature gauge is messed up which causes a high reading. I’m thinking about buying an aftermarket instrument cluster and swapping in the OEM hour meter and faceplate as I don’t want to have the hour meter restarting from zero. I also can’t replace the individual gauge because the cheapest one I found was 120 dollars and the average was about 400. A cluster can be bought aftermarket for about 100 or so, so that’s an easy thing.

Decided that the wiring harness is good except for the couple bad spots on the front of the engine so my plan is to splice in some new wire with heat shrink solder connectors and there should be absolutely no issue there. Cheaper too.

Also on the docket is some new battery cables, a proper 4DLT battery, an alternator conversion, fresh hydraulic fluid in the loader and I’m also toying with the notion of limb risers/sweeps like on the dozers, but that remains to be seen.

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It's looking great man! What kind of alternator swap you thinking, GM 1 wire?


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Update time! Got the ROPS mounted and its wiring roughed in. The halogens on there are coming off I decided in favor of some more LEDs. She’s still running great, it appears the resistor in the temperature gauge is messed up which causes a high reading. I’m thinking about buying an aftermarket instrument cluster and swapping in the OEM hour meter and faceplate as I don’t want to have the hour meter restarting from zero. I also can’t replace the individual gauge because the cheapest one I found was 120 dollars and the average was about 400. A cluster can be bought aftermarket for about 100 or so, so that’s an easy thing.

Decided that the wiring harness is good except for the couple bad spots on the front of the engine so my plan is to splice in some new wire with heat shrink solder connectors and there should be absolutely no issue there. Cheaper too.

Also on the docket is some new battery cables, a proper 4DLT battery, an alternator conversion, fresh hydraulic fluid in the loader and I’m also toying with the notion of limb risers/sweeps like on the dozers, but that remains to be seen.
Ooh a 4dlt! Them things are HEAVY. I deal with them at work often. Never could figure out why they don't put handles on them. They weigh about 80lbs. Can you say BROKEN KNEE? Beautiful tractor BTW, I'm looking for an 8n myself.

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It's looking great man! What kind of alternator swap you thinking, GM 1 wire?

I believe so, I’ll be getting the steiner kit for it so I dont know any specifics but it looks exactly like a 1 wire clone with a rear tach drive. Not too bad of a job, 2 hours and a $240 kit. 55 amp alternator.

And thank you! Definitely come a long way from the day she came home.

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Ooh a 4dlt! Them things are HEAVY. I deal with them at work often. Never could figure out why they don't put handles on them. They weigh about 80lbs. Can you say BROKEN KNEE? Beautiful tractor BTW, I'm looking for an 8n myself.

Definitely! I see myself enlisting a family member of younger blood than I to assist in lifting it in. My back is- shall we say- behind on maintenance lol.

8Ns are a personal favorite too, would love to completely restore one one someday. Grandad used to use one for his Syrup business, damned reliable tractor. And thank you, shes a working girl but I try to keep her looking good Smile

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Don’t want to go into details now, but I won’t be posting updates for a while. Had a wreck last night and I’m pretty shook up. She’s fine, I’m fine but long story short I ran into something with the loader bucket. Not going back up on the horse for a while probably.
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@Rustbucket Garage man that sucks, glad y'all are ok
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I take care of yourself man. Healing (physically and mentally) takes time sometimes.


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> After the carb rebuild, she runs immaculate now

Awesome!

> Timing hasn’t been messed with since I got it so I doubt that’s an issue

Springs may be weak, snapped, or corroded.

On a points system with vacuum advance, you might have to clean and oil the base plate under the cap. On older Ford trucks, there is a little felt pad to add oil. Mineral oil, I think, not motor oil. Been 10+ years since I worked on one that old.


Looks awesome, I have been wanting and needing a FEL for a while, surely beats shoveling.

A guy about 20 miles from me, had an older JD fixed all up, and they stole it on him! So, I suggest a Tile or AirTag or something to help protect the investment. I guess from the post, they came with a trailer and just took it from his back 40.

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> I will say having more tractor than loader is an enjoyable sentiment

Especially if you want to move a full bucket of gravel or limestone a few 100 feet.
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@JB_4x4 I don’t know if I ever posted it but I went and replaced the condenser with a Napa one (last one was a no name kit) and she fired up first crank and ran perfect.

I eliminated the vacuum advance and just plugged it, seemed to help a little. Never bothered to check timing. Had her out quite a bit this year, put 30 hours on or so. No real issues aside from a bearing noise in the transmission, so that is on the docket for whenever I get the time to do it. Dropped out of college so hopefully that will help.

On another note. I got a good deal at auction on a genuine york rake. Cleaned it and painted it JD green (since green equipment are the ones that get towed anyways), and it works soooooo much better for grading than a box blade. Also super nice for rock picking.

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She’s a real workhorse.

I friggin hate thieves. My great uncle has a small beef operation in East Texas and he had a gang clean out his barn TWICE doing that. They never caught the wastes of oxygen.

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> I went and replaced the condenser with a Napa one

I probably missed it ? :-)

> I eliminated the vacuum advance and just plugged it, seemed to help a little.

I found this guy very informative about this subject. I started watching his channel maybe 8-10 years ago? I was going to skip his video because I thought "what can I learn from a 19 year old racing with an old "dent side?" Ford truck". Glad I watched, this article helped me solve a problem converting from computer to points, good and CORRECT information on distributor advance just can not easily be found.


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@Rustbucket Garage what's your uncles name?
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I'd recommend a PM


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I'd recommend a PM
Definitely, we work at a sale barn so I wondered if I knew him
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